New York Times chief outlines coverage shift: From Trump-Russia to Trump racism

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Oh really? Is that why Trump armed the Ukrainians with deadly weaponry? Is that why 200 Russian soldiers were killed in Syria by US forces under Trump?
     
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    Racism is nothing to joke about.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Who is joking about racism?
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    You mentioned the topic first.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Racism is nothing to joke about but those who look for racism where none exists, and solely for political purposes, should be ridiculed and laughed at. What other response would you suggest?
     
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    I guess you forgot about these minor details!:roflol:
     
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    And you think the topic is 'joking about racism?"
     
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    I suggest opposing sides make time & show an effort to talk to one another again. As Americans, we ALL share more in common than we disagree with. Focusing exclusively on our disagreement is a recipe for disaster.
     
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    I'm just responding to something you wrote.
     
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    I'm not sure I have any other choice but to call Trump a racist at this point. I resisted the label for a while, but I don't think I can remain consistent in my beliefs without pointing out that he's an antisemite. I agreed that Omar would be an antisemite if she ever actually appealed to dual loyalty, but she didn't. Trump has. I don't think it is intentional, just pure ignorance, like most racism.
     
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    As John Pilger put it, the media is about great power.
    He ought to know.
    I see the media as being an opportunity - an opportunity for anyone who wants to change the world in some way.
    It's not really an opportunity to "report" on what is important or relevant.
     
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    Do you agree all this talk of "white supremacy" is done in ignorance?
     
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    Of Trump? Sure. And his antisemitic talk of dual loyalty is also done in ignorance. Which is closer to the topic of the thread.
     
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    I am sure that in Africa there are plenty of hard working, business oriented blacks.
    Those chosen for slavery were not of this type. Many "blacks" who migrate or visit
    America find the "African Americans" there quite lazy. And by "blacks" I mean Indians,
    Pakistanis, Ethiopians, Nigerians etc.. I think in the next century Africa will be the
    world's great power, with four billion people.
     
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    "White supremacy" is the new term because "racist" is losing its bite.
    And in American culture "bite" is the point - the Left doesn't reason, they bite.
    So Trump as "racist" needs to be replaced with "Trump as white supremacist."
    It's all about labels. It replaces real news, and real people.
     
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    No, white supremacy is hardly a new term replacing racism. Racists have, however, adopted the language of racial nationalism and racial separatism to claim that they aren't racist. "I don't think whites are superior, I just think whites and other races should have their own space and shouldn't intermingle."

    As for Trump, I have no choice but to call him an antisemite. I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't. I agreed that Omar would be an antisemite if she spread the nonsense of dual loyalty among Jews. She didn't. But Trump did. I'm not going to sacrifice my integrity in the name of Trump worship, so I have no choice but to call him an antisemite. I've never accused him of being racist before this point, except maybe when he wanted racial requirements for judges to hear cases involving him. He's forced me to it.
     
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    Certainly "white supremacist" is not new, but like most issues, it's how old terms get new meanings
    or new usage. There's also "black supremacist" and "yellow supremacist" if you like. People are
    people - as Luther would put it, the color their skin shouldn't matter. But to the Cultural Marxist, skin
    is now a "thing."
    I doubt that Trump is really antisemitic, or a racist, or pro-Russian, or even pro-American - Trump is
    just Trump. He just has a few mental issues - and that's the really scary thing.
     
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    Yes, there are.

    Luther . . .you are citing a rabid racist to back up your criticism of racist claims? The dude was an explicit antisemite. Jesus.

    "Cultural Marxists" didn't invent the concept of racism. Racists did, however, invent the concept of "Cultural Marxism" to discredit critics of racism.

    As I said, I was willing to call Omar an antisemite for spreading the racist trope of dual loyalty. But she didn't spread that trope. Trump did. I agree he could be acting out of stupidity instead of maliciousness, but that's pretty common for racists.
     
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    Re Luther. Know next to nothing about the guy, but don't Americans have a holiday for him?
    I didn't know about his antisemitism, but I read recently how his followers would get party
    loyalist women for him to rape. Now, if America has a holiday for this guy then that's super
    embarrassing.
    If Americans are in the business of tearing down statues, maybe it's time someone tore him
    down too?
     
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    Which side is calling their political opponents Nazis, Fascists, Racists, etc. and telling their followers to harass the other side in restaurants, shopping malls, etc., not allowing those with differing political views to speak on college campuses, and also destroying public property in their 'protests'? If you can name which party these people tend to belong to then that would be a good start.
     
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    If you understand what an anti Semite is means then perhaps you'll explain how the President is an anti Semite.
     
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    LMAO

    Dude, you might want to brush up on history, and stop embarrassing yourself
     
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    At the beginning of the American Civil War no Republican owned slaves.
    Lincoln had to fight the Democrats in the North and South (the south with
    an army, the north with politics.)
    The Jim Crow was a Democrat invention.
    The KKK were old Democrats.
     
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    Now let's fast forward to the current century, huh grandma?
     
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    Heres a thought. Stop being racists and supporting a hitler wannabe. Problem solved
     

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