New York Times: Trump’s Immigration Policy Wins Black Votes

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  1. Let Freedom Ring

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    I believe you are mistaken. Please post a link to these statistics.
     
  2. Let Freedom Ring

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    Isn't Devin Nunes an example of the typical California Retrumplican? Lol, he is even a bigger buffoon than the orange menace!
     
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    You cannot blame certain states for national and international immigration laws. The law says these people have the legal right to apply for amnesty and that they cannot be forced to wait in Mexico for their cases to be heard. Trump doesn't like that he has to follow the rules, but too bad for him. He does.
     
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    Actually.... he can force them to wait in Mexico. Just had the decision drop down from the 9th circuit of all places.
     
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    You mean like how the Republican "tax cut" helped the middle class and lower income households by revising the amount withheld to make it look as though they were actually getting more money? Well, at least until they realized their tax return is now severely depleted or non-existent. The only people who benefited from that are the extremely rich and the big corporations. Why would a financially struggling family, white or black, support a party that made it possible for a company making millions (even billions) in profits to not only owe ANY taxes, but eligible for HUGE refunds as well. None of the money saved by those tax breaks was passed down to workers, it all goes directly to shareholders or to automation (which eliminates the need for workers). Good job Retrumplicans! They serve no one but their rich doners. Again, why would anyone but the super rich or super gullible give support to a party that would trick them into thinking withholding less taxes is actually paying less taxes? SMH.
     
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    Dont forget to mention how they also work for Trump businesses. They were even instructed in how to get believable paperwork to make them appear to be legal.
     
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    Only in extreme circumstances were children separated from parents. Such as criminal history or cases where the accompanying adults were not legal guardians of the children in their care. Trump made it a hardline policy on a huge scale with the motivation of deterrence. It didn't work and yet he wants to do it again.
     
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    Only in very specific circumstances. Trump did it to EVERY CHILD, regardless of circumstances. You can continue to try and twist the truth, but it doesn't change the facts. If you really believe what you are posting, you should look beyond Faux 'n Fiends or Breitbart for your information because you are incorrect.
     
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    Yeah, the defense narrative is that Obama did it for the children's safety. LOL
     
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    Asylum seekers are NOT illegal.
     
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    Yep, there it is indeed. Nowhere in their post did this person say Trump voting minorities were not real. Perfect example of Retrumplican spinning and twisting of facts.
     
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    No, the TRUTH is that it was done in limited, very specific circumstances during Obama's administration. Trump has done it on a huge scale and lost track of children/parents so that some may never be reunited. You cannot justify Trumps actions by invoking Obama or any other administration. Your whataboutism is a joke.
     
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    The truth is, you are just making up stuff that is outrageous and you know you can't prove. The truth is, Obama separated children from their parents and put the children in cages so no matter how you spin it or what nonsense you choose to post, Obama put children in cages.

    "For their own protection" - according to an Obama official.
     
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    While you are at it, why not also supply the numbers on how many children the Obama administration lost track of, therefore making reunification with their parents an impossibility. How many thousands of children is the Obama administration responsible for permanently separating from their parents?
     
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    Why don't you supply them?
     
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    After his horrible treatment of the people of Puerto Rico following the devastating damage sustained in the hurricane, I cannot see him gaining much support from the Hispanic community. Trump has made no secret of the disdain he holds for people of Hispanic descent. I don't think tossing a couple of rolls of paper towels has eased any ruffled feathers. Trump has expressed his anger and frustration at the number of people who have died as a result of the hurricane; not because of the needless suffering due to the ineffective handling of the disaster under his watch, but because the revised high death toll reflected badly on him! He has referred to Mexican immigrants as rapists and murderers and disparaged Puerto Ricans, who are American Citizens, for dying and making him look bad. Do you really think he is going to gain much support on that end? I dont. As far as support from the black community, nobody takes Kanye West or Herman Cain seriously.
     
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    That is the lib narrative. The difference is the flood of migrants with children.
     
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    Ok, you got me...Kanye West, Herman Cain, and who is the third? And come to think of it, didnt Kanye kind of walk back his support somewhat after receiving much negative feedback following his public praise for the President?
     
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    Doesn't it make 'compassionate', 'inclusive' good sense to send these lawbreaking, invader sons-of-bitches to places where they are cherished, adored, desired, and where all the good little libs are waiting on them, with tears of anticipation in their eyes...?

    And libs are so deluded and stupid that they really think all Black citizens of this country will just follow blindly along and buy into this idiocy...? :roll:
     
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    YES!!!! I was there as well. I was young, but having been raised by a very politically involved family, I was also very aware. When I first saw Republicans attempting to deny Nixon's southern strategy ever happened or the existence of "Dixiecrats", I couldn't believe even Trump supporters would try to erase a history that many still recall and can attest to the veracity of. The very fact that they are attempting to distort a truth by reversing the facts reflects on their desperation to hide their long history of racism and divert their sins to their enemies. In their attempt to villainize Democrats by falsely painting them with Republican ideology, Republicans are not only admitting to their racism but acknowledging that it was (and is) wrong.
     
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    I'm middle class. I made more money and paid less in taxes last year than I ever have.

    Maybe I'm in the minority but I dont feel like I'm the only one.

    My 401k has skyrocketed, my home value is appraised at 204k (bought for 154k three years ago), and I'm about to sell that.

    Paid off student loans, paid off my truck.

    If you arent thriving in this economy, you suck and you should only blame yourself.
     
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    This is where we are in life...

    "How many famous black people support your candidate?"
     
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    Before the 1970's, there was no such thing as a conservative Republican in the South.

    Indeed, there were almost no Republicans in the South. At least, not white ones, anyway.

    After the Civil Rights and the Voting Rights act were passed, that started to slowly change.

    The first sings were from the evangelical community, where Republicanism was sold to people who resented civil rights and felt betrayed on their core issue by the Democratic party. The freshly minted "Moral Majority" was one of the drivers of Ronald Reagan's 1976 campaign, and Reagan didn't forget, subtly dog whistling to the racist audience by announcing his candidacy in Philadelphis, Mississippi.

    As for erasing history, that's pretty much standard practice now in right wing media, and it has been going on for a long time. History was conveniently erased or removed from context in the selling of the Iraq war.

    Every day, right wing talk radio hosts repeat long discredited claims as fact. They may not be factual, but the audience has a vague memory of having heard something like that before, so they believe it.

    You see that on this thread. And this forum is full of it.
     

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