No Solid Proof Paddock Was The Shooter

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    I will have my questions about Paddock till they answer some questions and stop hiding the truth from us. Liek the two guns and where that owman was really born ,why she had so many IDs and why most of Paddocks enemy witnesses are in her family.
    This is true so if you lose your job or welfare check whatever, then maybe it won't be so simple for you. Woman and men working two or more jobs to keep up.
    Many black and white Americans are losing good jobs everyday to government infiltrated foreigners. Also some other American are too who are not allied with special interest groups.
     
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    You mean in Vegas? No post it
     
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    I did watch it and wish I knew how to slow motion it. But I do know many witnesses said there were other shooters. They have been silenced mostly.
     
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    Scroll up, I did
     
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    He Killed himself ... isn't that the MO these guys have?
     
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    Word is he planned to escape.
     
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    Look what 911 brought them, the gift that keeps on giving to them an taking from us. And free speech no way, just disagreeing or accusing them of what they do is enough to get us all on a list somewhere.
     
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    The same idea (setup) occurred to me.
     
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    What the hell.

    And then there's this

     
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    I wouldn't have gotten far
     
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    Or check out and go home? But somebody else had different plans for him. :crazy::machinegun:
     
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    Could be. Whole thing smells.
     
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    Wow these Ramboetts are growing. JK I think the girl was telling the truth.
     
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    Man I'm not really a conspiratorial type of person but I'm getting pushed that way more and more. And I'm getting pushed more and more into the libertarian/minarchist way of thinking.

    Government with lots of power is always evil and corrupt. That's just a fact and we need to put a muzzle on this out-of-control monster in DC that's been growing in festering for over a hundred years.

    But it all circles back to the mainstream media. If these vipers are not stopped their constant lying and propaganda will eventually win over the public. Human beings just are not smart enough to sustain a constant barrage of non-stop propaganda.
     
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    Oh, gawd could you be more clueless. What floor was Paddock alleged found dead on? What, I can't here you - speak a little louder, please. That's right. Paddock, was allegedly found dead on the 32nd floor. What is the height of one floor in conventional commercial construction? Answer = 10.826 feet. A little math shows that Paddock assumed an FFP of 346.43 feet + the height of the mezzanine. Got it? Good, let's move on.

    At an elevation of 346ft and given the horizontal distance from the base of the building out to the concert grounds and/or general pedestrian area, the shooter (because I am not convinced it was Paddock at this point in the Official Storytellers Story Line) would have had an angle of descent less than 45-degrees easily without question. The winds (I have no doubt) were negligible at best. Humidity, well in check. Temperature, not a causal factor requiring significant problems for the shooter. This FFP was pretty much Birdseye by any textbook definition. From that kind of position even your LIBERAL azz could have killed 58 people using an AK patterned rifle and nothing more than 556 - which I assumed is what this rig was dispensing that dreadful day.

    My point? It could not be clearer. Automatic or Semi-Automatic would have made precious little difference in the lethality of the rounds being reigned down from such a gawd like FFP.

    You don't know Jack about firearms or the horse that Jack rode in on. So, please spare me that erudite differentiation between automatic and semi-automatic weapons, because clearly you don't know what actually makes a weapon "lethal" in the first place.



    National regulation on semi-automatic weapons ALREADY exists or did you knot ALREADY know this FACT? Clueless. Conversion Accessories? Are you worried about enhanced lethality? Then let's shut down every gawd damn McDonald's in America today, because that is absolutely LETHAL food for anyone who eats that crap. Ok, so I'm being facetious but you earned it with your blind ambition and penchant for wandering into territories without properly educating yourself before you do it. Let's get to a common sense baseline.


    What you just wrote completely ignores what the Constitution says. Either you are going to abide by the Constitution even when you don't like its tenets or you must someday expect to have those areas of the Constitution you do like to be distorted and ultimately trashed someday as a direct result. You can't have it both ways. How many Abortion Lobbyists are out there "calling the shots" on issues you care about? You can't see the logical symmetry here? How many lives are lost do to abortions every year in America, or does those "Lives Not Matter" to you because you are too busy trying to "save lives" by infringing upon the Second Amendment? Hows that for symmetrical juxtaposition?

    908,000 abortions took place in 2015 ALONE in the US. How many deaths involving firearms were recorded in that same year - do you even know the answer? And, you want to talk to me about facts that matter? Yes, "Facts Do Matter" and the fact is that certain people in this country favor one type of killing while pretending to actually care about another. That's a fact.
     
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    For the sake of argument, why is it so important to you that there was only one shooter?
     
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    Just the simple fact alone that these tyrants go in middle class and in a couple years are multi-millionaires. How when you can see most of them are mental's. :bounce:They get rich buy selling us out on deal at a time.
    If they want us to really go into worship mode they kill the hell out of some of us then pull out flags and it is worship time. :angel:
     
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    One of the things we need in this country is truly Independent Journalism. We don't have that in the mainstream anymore and 911 proved that to me beyond anything I could have possibly imagined as the "Media" completely failed to ask the right questions about Flight 93, Flight 77 and the Israelis who were arrested in New York the day of 911 with an APB out on their white van for possibly having "explosives on-board."
     
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    Spare me the lecture about details of 100s of different types of guns I don't know. The fact that you know them actually makes you a gun enthusiast, and somewhat creepy. I don't need to know if it was a real automatic gun, a modified semiautomatic or whatever other detail the gun enthusiasts want to throw in to obfuscate the discussion. What I need to know is that a gun that can kill 50+ and injure 400+ in 10 minutes does not belong in public hands and should not be purchasable.

    Now, hit me with your superior gun knowledge and show me how stupid I am, I have had these discussion before. I have no time for gun afficionados who spend 90% of their day reading gun magazines and firing and polishing their beloved weapons, and then 100s of people die because one of them is going postal. I've had it.

    P.S.: Also spare me the abortion talk, it is not part of this topic. But, if you must know, I am anti abortion. Doesn't fit into your world view, does it?
     
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    Newsweek retracted their false claim about the 2 social security numbers.

    http://www.newsweek.com/marilou-danley-677033
     
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    - I have a PhD in Physics, so I know the world is not flat.
    - I have a Masters in Aerodynamics, so I know the moon landings were not faked.
    - I lost a tooth once as a child and got $20 for it in return under my pillow, so I damn well know the Easter Bunny LIVES and reigns as a supreme being!
    - I abstained from voting in the last election because I thought BOTH candidates sucked and I no longer wish to be a part pushing my country over the cliff.
    - I rely heavily on common sense and better judgement than watching the news while being brainwashed (lied to) in the process without knowing it.
    - Both Trump and Putin are morally corrupt pathological liars and unfit for leadership at any level of government.

    Now, I'll put the same question to you in reverse this time: There were 13,286 people killed by firearms in 2015. How many abortions took place in 2015?

    On the one hand you claim moral high ground when it comes to guns. On the other hand you sink to moral turpitude when it comes to abortion. Why the complete irrational double standard and no ability to recognize your own Dalai Lama?
     
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    Congressman Trey Gowdy also has questions. Skip to about 2 min.s.

     
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    What did you just say? Let me get this straight. So, "Black Lives Matter" but "Details Don't Matter" now? By the way, I am Black - so that's not a racially charged comment. Types like you love to tell me (as a Black Man) that my life matters to you, yet types like you are constantly trying to disarm me so that I can't defend my Black azz from the criminals. I'm confused. If my Black Life Matters to you so much, then why make it harder for me to defend myself while making it easier for criminals to assault me?

    Spare you the details that matter? Why the hell would I do such a thing. I want to help educate you, not spare you from that education. You just Bump Steered the wrong dude, here. I'm here to actually help you understand what you clearly have yet to figure out on your own.


    That's your uninformed opinion and everybody has at least one of those. So, at the end of the day, you're not really saying much. I am a gun enthusiast much the same way that I am an aviation enthusiast. I own both guns and aircraft. That does not make me a Combat Pilot, however. I am enthusiastic about money and building wealth, but that does not make me a Donald Trump wannabe. I'm enthusiastic about artificial intelligence, but that does not make me an Android. I am enthusiastic about how your neural networking got so screwed up that you don't know what makes a firearm lethal in the first place. However, that in no way makes me a Neuro Scientist. I'm "enthusiastic" about a lot of things as most intellectuals are, which probably is something you would find creepy according to your world view.



    Like hell you don't. You need that education unless you want to be one of those who goes off 'half cocked' blithering away about subject matter you don't understand while offering baseless opinion as "fact." You had better go grab that education from some reputable source capable of delivering it to you. Else, you will be in a dark room searching for a light switch that does not exist when discussing issues of firearm lethality at range and from elevation. Moreover, you desperately need to go visit this document for your own edification: https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/GPO-CONAN-1992/pdf/GPO-CONAN-1992-10-3.pdf.


    That's blind splattering nonsensical drivel on its face. You can kill 50+ and injure the same 400 in minutes using vehicles and common household chemicals, if you knew what you were doing. Again, what makes a firearm lethal? Can you answer that question, please. Or, will you keep ducking and dodging the obvious answer. I've never met a firearm that killed anyone. And, anyone who owns a firearm with any degree of knowledge about them, also understands that firearms do not kill people. There is not a recorded case in the history of modern firearms in this country where the firearm killed anyone. Not one. Don't even bother looking for that case - it does not exist.

    Your problem is that you are hyper-emotional right now and unable to think beyond your insidiously clueless prose that have no logical nexus to the underlying reality facing us at this moment.



    And, apparently you learned nothing after having such "discussions" before. Here's a hint. You must be willing to educate yourself before any discussion you have involving firearms will be anything other than the ritualistic tossing of trash on a wall just to see what sticks. Your words make no sense and you keep posting them as if they will magically transcribe themselves into something that does. Again, I am trying to help you understand some critical aspects of this particular event where you have demonstrated no conceptual understanding. You are focused on the gun, when you should be focused on the Causation behind the actions. You are not thinking. You are reacting, which is exactly where they want your brain to be at this very moment.

    A "mass shooting" from the 32nd floor of a hotel in Vegas during a live outdoor concert under cover of darkness. Are you kidding me? If that is not made for television and to fit directly into the 911 mass fear narrative, then nothing else on earth would qualify. Now, the "Media" has your attention full centered on "guns" and not Causation. And, you think that you are not being played like a fiddle?



    You are an assumptive provocateur without a solitary clue about that which you pretend to understand. I don't polish Polymer. I clean it - but I don't polish it. You really do need to get up to speed here.



    Ok, so you've ducked that question. However, the underlying and most fundamental question still remains: Should Only The Police Be Allowed To Bare Arms?
     
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    One video of gun's being fired.

     

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