Obama Administration's War Against The Second Amendment...Continued...

Ultimately the intent of this OP doesn't hinge on what Obama has, has not, or attempted to do. It has to do with the reality that the Obama administration has and will continue to attack our 2A rights. Childish word games aside.

 

Explain to me how UBC's would work with out first enacting a database of firearm owners. How else would the government know if I transfer my gun to you in a private transaction? These private transactions can not be tracked without registration. UBC's are unenforceable without registration.

 

exactly correct and furthermore, just how would the government get a national database that was accurate?

 

Same way they work now with FFL's. No database exists now for firearm owners.

Same way they do now, through a trace.

There is no need for a registration, just like there is no registration now with FFL's.

 

"Natural law" is just a phrase pertaining to what cannot be taken away.

 

Except it's not correct. No database is needed, just like no database is needed now for FFL's conducting background checks.

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But it can be taken away. That's the point. Anyone can take away your "right" to life. It's illegal, without due process, but that doesn't stop it from being taken.

 

Obama would take every gun away from every American if he could. Luckily, most Americans cherish their rights. Only a few loud-mouthed media outlets and groups that claim to be about gun safety are championing the anti-gun movement. Thankfully, groups like the NRA and GOA are keeping this Administration in check, as well as State and local governmental bodies.

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Of course, but the right cannot be taken away, just abused.

 

Lol, no. But to play along, why didn't he when he could have? He has the presidency and both houses of congress half his first term.

I just showed you it can be taken away.

 

FFL's are required to do a BC when selling a firearm and ATF checks their records to make sure they follow protocol. Who makes sure the private citizen follows the same protocol? It's not possible unless the government knows who owns what. There is no way to require me to do a background check on you when transferring. FFL gets caught not doing a BC when selling, they lose their license and face possible prosecution.

 

Not a database, just like I said.

Just proven false. No database exists now with FFL's. No database would need to for private sales.

 

How do they enforce the FFL check between private parties?

 

Same way they enforce it between an FFL and an individual. No database exists now, nor would one need to exist for UBC's.

 

Right now there is a way to check FFL's to see if they do Background checks and they are punished if they don't do it.
I'm going to ask again... How do they make sure one is performed if I sell to my friend. The answer is they can't.

 

Evidently you don't understand universal background checks, eh. Please elaborate on your beliefs as to how UBC would work and b e effective

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wrong, please learn how UBC works and how they need a database to be effective

 

You hit it spot on. Without a database if I choose to ignore UBC how would the feds know? Plus If I am a criminal, and I know I have a record why would I go through one.....very few criminals who know they have a record go through the FFL check. Just another attack on law abiding citizens rights under the 2A by the Obama administration

 

LOL Wait...Wait....I can see it now,
1. 2 bad guys w/criminal records, one wants to sell a gun to the other. BG1 to BG2, you know we need to do a UBC, BG2 to BG1, yeah but let's just skip it. BG1...OK
2. 1 BG wants to buy a gun from an Honest citizen, HC to BG, you know we need a UBC, BG to HC....naw don't need one. HC to BG, OK no sale.
3. BG try's to buy a gun from citizen, C to BG, we need a UBC, BG no we don't, C says OK (sells gun) BG uses gun in crime, FBI checks, C says I didn't sell that gun, I don't know what happened to it FBI says, well we have no way of proving anything...CYA.
4 Citizen1 wants to buy gun from Citizen2, C2 says we need a UBC, C1 says naw we don't, C2 says OK government has no way of knowing a transaction even took place.
5. C1 does UBC and sells gun to C2, C2 sells gun to C3 without UBC and the government doesn't have a clue nor can prove anything, C3 sells to C4 with UBC but UBC is a straw purchaser....government can't figure out where gun came from. LOL No database, no proof.

More burden on the innocent and less on the criminal....and the Obama administration comes after your guns

 

Our Ninth and Tenth Amendments and State Constitutions recognize the concept of "natural rights" and the basis for it under our republican form of Government.

 

It makes sense that some form of a data base is kept on FFL holders. The BATF knows exactly where to go when they want to check on those. It surely follows that a registration data base would also provide them with the same information about lawful owners. The Fed Gov is not allowed to keep a data base on any gun owner, much less an FFL holder, but that doesn't seem to matter to them.Ergo, all of the lawful owners Right to firearms IS threatened under any circumstance for the creation of a registration data source.

 

He did not strictly for political reasons.

The right still exists, but is abused. Just like free speech and the right to guns exists, but is abused.

 

If gun lovers were more serious, they could have a militia relationship with their State or the Union, well regulated; and be able to keep and bear Arms in public.

 

I am able to keep and bear arms in public because of my Second Amendment rights and my State's awesome carry laws.

 

well regulated militias don't need to depend on carry laws.

 

That's great. No worries then.

 

why are State governors getting a free pass as commanders in chief of that which is necessary to the security of a free State?

 

You took the words right out of my mouth.

Thank you for posting the TRUTH.