Obama backs reparations for the first time and slams ‘politics of white resistance’

So, heres's a thought. Obama now believes in reparations. Ok, what changed his mind?

Second, can we be honest for just a second and actually talk about reserved privilege for a minute? If, as Joe and the Camel two suggest, we "want unity", how does offering reparations (paid for by?) produce this? It appears (because the narrative is premised on this flaw) that wealth has to be transferred from the rest of the races in the US to black folks. Democrats are demanding that everyone alive to day that isn't black or somewhat black, or whatever, I'm sure it will be like proving your native heritage (Yes, Pocahaught us, that's you...) that allows you to suddenly become part of the inclusive class. Gosh, the reverbs.... And again, except for those poor souls who have been stolen from their nations of origin to participate in the drug and sex trades, who are these slaves again that we are paying? Cause i can pretty much prove that no one that will qualify for the payee class is part of those groups today, nor were their parents, or their parents parents, or great grand parents, and well you should get the point by now. Who do payoffs actually compensate?

And why, now, is the O onboard with this? Perhaps his, and of course the muffle wife find their incomes declining, and this is his attempt at just a little more graft? Hard to say for sure. It surely doesn't seem like this is a genuine position of the former president. It seems, well, "crafted" "Curated" etc. Perhaps he believes it will "make Moochelle proud" of him again. I cannot fathom the amount of hubris this takes from the former O. But hey,

Oh, and just for the sake of argument. Why doesn't this smack of the very cultural appropriation that the black culture so zealously protect? When the hiphop participants refer to say Eminem as a "guest in their house"... well, I think that sums up their narrative precisely...

 

Again, it be nice if folks would immerse themselves in U.S. history and MAYBE, how this idiotic reparation will be paid.. You really don't think the US gubmint is going to take the time to assess a tax penalty to those Americans whose ancestors were slave owners while making those of us not remotely aligned with any sort of slavery exempt do you..

Seems to me the Black mans beef is with the English, Spanish and of course Africans that rounded up all those slaves, transported them and profited from it..

I'm all in on reparation, but I'll be damned if I have to pay for a crime I or any of my lineage is guilty of.. And don't insult me again with that white nationalist bullshit! I don't fall for that sort white guilting nonsense, save that for the leftist..

 

Hell I'll sum it in much less wordage, "Buying votes with immigrants" tax dollars...

 

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lol with "created" wind........ LOL!

That is how a fan jet engine works......

 

This is the problem and why there is such divide. Americans are not willing to pay for the most wicked crime in history that they perpetrated. No wonder race relations are so bad in america.

 

LOL, ya let innocents pay for other countries crimes, ya that makes sense

 

You are from an unrelated country now who migrated to america after slavery. Blame your grandparents then for not doing their homework before migrating to usa. Youve got to be some kind of mindset to move to a country that had been practicing race based chattel slavery for hundreds of years...or maybe your family were revolutionaries fighting for black freedom and you didnt get the memo

 

LOL, now you're showing your real self Although you can't blame the folk that owned slaves..

You should teach, something.. And this subject aint it!

 

The Democratic Boys ( and girlies) cannot even get their cherished $15 an hour minimum federal pay level passed hie in the FHell would they ever get reparations passed.

If everyone stops to think about it we already have had reparations in one form or another. Affirmative Action is a form of reparations which extends into education and the labor market. I paid reparations as did my daughter. Being White my daughter and my wife and I had to get student loans to get her through college while her Black roommate got a completely free ride plus spending money. When I was laid off from the insurance industry a few years before that I tried to get into a retraining program to get out of the insurance industry but when I applied for retraining the Black guy who ran the program for the state just about laughed in my face. I had too much going against me you see I am White, I have an advanced degree, and live in the suburbs.

Blacks who worked in the same company that I did who got laid off at the time I did got training money and were a shoo in for grants just for being Black.

Not only did my ancestors not own slaves I was not born in this country but I paid reparations because Billy Tommie Bobby Jethro Goober IV owned slaves in 1864 South Carolina.

 

Soooo...just more rants?

Figures.

 

Who is ranting? I'm just looking for equality, you do believe in equality right?

 

Ive heard it mentioned that white women are the biggest profiteers from AA so you might wanna find another excuse

 

Nah youre ranting and getting emotional.

 

Nah, never my friend, neva But might want to slow down a bit, in your hast you missed a '

 

Fine. You might want to put your thinking cap back on if you want to carry on this conversation.

 

Why, you have a smart friend there with you?

 

The enslavement of anyone by anyone else is a crime. Surely we can all agree on that.

Relative to this thread, the enslavement of Black Africans by anyone -- Middle-Easterners, Europeans, Americans, and other Black Africans was a crime.

Slavery was abolished in Europe and the United States by the mid-1800's. Those who committed those crimes were all dead nearly a hundred years ago.

Punishment? There was no 'punishment' for the English and French slave owners, except gradual deprivation of that slave labor. In the United States, slave owners had their own homes and businesses largely destroyed in the Civil War, and the monetary investment in the slaves they owned was totally lost, with no compensation from the government. On the contrary, during the American Civil War, quite a number of slave owners lost not only everything they owned, but their lives also.

Then came the "Reconstruction Period" in the South, which wreaked even more economic loss and disruption on all the states of the Confederacy -- not just former slave owners. At any rate, all slaves were freed by 1865... and "Reconstruction" came to an end in 1877.

No owners of Black slaves are alive in the United States today. There is no one who was involved in slavery in America left to 'punish' for slavery any further, or any longer.

It is to be hoped that Black-on-Black slavery -- which persists in Sub-Saharan Africa TO THIS DAY can be forced to end before very much more time passes. Slavery is as wrong today as it was many thousands of years ago when it began.

 

Perhaps it is time to stop languishing in the past, and actually look to the future. There is plenty of opportunity in this country for people to advance. Look at Obama, Oprah, Carson, Wonder, etc. Dwelling in the past and feeling sorry for oneself does nothing to make a person better. In many cases, if not most, poverty is self inflicted.

 

Family estates and banks that were built using slavery money are still around today.

Maybe you should be more concerned about the slavery of white women in your own society before moving onto africa huh? Youd be more useful there dont you think?

 

Very disappointing to hear him say this. Seems like he's trying to screw over the Democratic Party, again.

 

I can only reply, truthfully, that "family estates and banks" that were created in Italy at the time that Rome built much of their wealth due to slave labor (including that of my ancestors in Germania) still exist today. Indeed, the great banking houses that rose in Italy created the financial foundations of entire banking and financial systems throughout Europe. I'm sure you've read about the great banking empires that originated in Florence...? Oh, and then there's the Vatican!

But, if you examine the Boards of Directors in any great bank in Italy today, you won't find any (ANY) owners of slaves.... The Roman Italians who enslaved my German ancestors are all dead, just like those Confederate plantation owners who had Negro slaves in the 1800's over here. It's all part of long-gone history.

Next, I truly don't know a single thing about "white women in your own society before moving onto africa (sic) huh?" Moreover, I don't know what usefulness you are talking about...(?). Please restate or refine whatever point it is that you are trying to make....

 

We "get it" that a certain segment of the political spectrum (one that seems to correspond to what the "right" calls "liberals" and who often thus self-identify) wants to push every conceivable point until it is wrung of every last bit of social education regarding "race". To do this has meant burrowing in to any and all "identities" until all communication must engage in the social-psychological-political agenda of 'consciousness training' at every level. They are currently in the ascendant, the pendulum still swinging in the other direction from its opposite. What this obscures, for the moment, is the memory that all political sides do and have done the same over time. So, allow some of us to take shots at both of these binary choices Americans have imposed on themselves. The worst we can do is fail to awaken anyone to this failure.

 

This is one of those posts where I really have to shake my head. Why should people who committed no crime pay anything to people where were never the victim of a crime? Also, there would not have been a 'crime' if Africans didn't capture and sell their own kind. There are today, right now, an estimated 40 million people in slavery, mostly in Muslim and African countries with some south of our border. Why are you so concerned about the crimes of the past and not the crimes of the present? I have several ideas, but I'll wait for you to tell me.

As for the worst crime in history, aren't you forgetting Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Muslims past and present?

There is no common sense to reparations, none. Anyone who favors them is either looking for a check or voters. Which one are you?

 

How many illegals and refugees come to this country every year? You need to speak to those illegals and refugees and let them know how bad it sucks here. I'm sure a lot of conservatives would chip in to pay your expenses.

 

What are the casualties of the war that resulted in the end of slavery if not payment for that error, that "sin"?