Obama backs reparations for the first time and slams ‘politics of white resistance’

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  1. rahl

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    Taxation is of course not slavery. What a silly thing to say. Taxation is voluntary. Nobody forces you to stay, live and work in the US.
     
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    Sounds like you're talking about America prior to about 1965....

    In fairness, there was still plenty of both 'good-and-bad' in American society back then, too. I'm an old guy, with a surprisingly good memory... maybe too good. :lonely:

    But also in fairness, it is true that on a per capita basis -- today -- American Blacks do commit more violent crimes than either Whites or East-Asian people ("Orientals")....
     
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    I use the word "Oriental" because "East Asian" feels like a concession to political correctness. I dislike the parlance and restrictions of political correctness. What I mean by "Oriental" is China, and nations that learned civilization from China. These are Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Mongolia, and Tibet. I evaluate a race by average intelligence and rates of crime and illegitimacy. By these criteria Orientals are superior to whites, of whom I am one, and even more superior to another race I do not need to name.

    Orientals earn their title as "the model minority." I think of Orientals and whites as "the two civilized races." Geographically and historically we are the only races that have created successful civilizations. Here I am including Egyptians, East Indians, Arabs, Sumerians, Assyrians, and Chaldeans as "whites." They are certainly Caucasians. Regrettably the Arabs never recovered from the Mongol conquests of the thirteenth century. Currently they fall short of civilized standards of excellence. So when I say "white" I really mean Europeans and people of European dissent. We have created the most advanced, humane, and enlightened civilization in history, although we are regressing, and the Orientals are catching up quickly.

    Those who blame white racism for black social pathology cannot explain why black rates of crime and illegitimacy have risen since the civil rights legislation was passed and the War on Poverty was passed during the 1960's. Black academic performance has not improved despite expensive government programs like Head Start and No Child Left Behind.

    If a moderator is thinking about infracting me for my "racism" I wish to point out that I am describing average racial differences. There are intelligent, law abiding and monogamous Negroes (I have known and liked a few) just as there are stupid, promiscuous white criminals.
     
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    And, even though we Americans are very UNFAIRLY taxed because of the way that the U. S. Tax Code is written, in other countries -- especially the oh-so 'enlightened', neo-socialist quagmires of the EU, taxation is MUCH more pervasive, and much worse.

    But, I agree with you that taxation, per se, is "not slavery"! No. The true slavery in the 21st-century is ENDEBTEDNESS! When you are in DEBT to someone, that person OWNS you in a very real sense....
     
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    Oh, I'm not criticizing your use of the descriptive word, "Oriental". I simply use the term "East-Asian" much more often now because that is consistent with the writings of objective researchers into genetics and others who explore the differences that exist between the races of mankind.

    Tantalizing tidbit -- the race with the highest overall IQ is the "East-Asian". I say that, even though I'm a 'white-bread' Caucasian of German lineage....
     
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    Actually, Ashkenazi Jews have the highest IQ average. They tip the scales at 115. Orientals come in second with 106. White Gentiles, like me, have an average of 100.
     
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    Sounds like you and I have been reading some of the same books!

    But, remember, Ashkenazi Jews are not a separate, distinct race -- although it is evident that they maintain their heritage and their bloodlines with great care!
     
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    Ashkenazi Jews are a sub race of the Caucasian race. They have genetic markers that point to the Old Testament Israelites and to first century Italians. They are descended from Jews who moved to Italy after the Romans crusted the Jewish Revolt of 66 to 73 AD, and the Bar Kokhba revolt of 132 to 136 AD.

    When Charlemange established the Holy Roman Empire in 800 he invited Jews living in Italy - Northern Italy to below Rome was part of his empire back then - to move to Germany to administer his Empire. Jews were chosen because they were better educated than any other population west of the Byzantine Empire. The Hebrew word for German is Ashkenaz. After the death of Charlemange Jews in Christian Europe - Spain was ruled by Muslims back then - were not allowed to own land or to practice most trades. They were allowed to practice money lending. Christians were not. Money lending required complex intellectual skills. Jewish men who could not learn the skills converted to Christianity or they did not get married, and had no children. The Jews who could learn the skills are the ancestors of today's Ashkenazim.

    Money lending is essential to commerce. Unfortunately for the Ashkenazim it is not the way to make friends. People do not like to have to borrow money. They do not like to have to pay it back. Jews also managed aristocratic estates. Serfs resented them because they told the serfs that they had to give some of their crop yields to the lords of the manor. This was the beginning of secular antisemitism.

    I like Jews a whole lot. I hate those who hate Jews, and often get into forum wars with them on the internet. I like to anger the antisemites by reminding them how intelligent and prosperous most Jews are. In other words, I admire Jews for the same reasons they resent them. :mrgreen:
     
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    Since Obama is half white and half black, how would that work? Does he take money out of one of his bank accounts and deposit it in another of his accounts??? Inquiring minds want to know.
     
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    Because I am opposed to reparations I do not feel the need to answer your question. Reparations is a preposterous idea, and not one that blacks should be encouraged to expect.

    Anti racists tell us, "Race is only a social construct." Then why does it become relevant on issues like affirmative action and reparations?
     
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    Because I'm a right-wing Conservative, I find that I'm fairly often at odds, philosophically, with a variety of very liberal, "Reform" Jews. And while we disagree with each other, often in very spirited discussions about contemporary political issues (never 'religion', per se), I must say that in all my long life I have never confronted what I would think of as a STUPID Jew.

    I cannot recall a situation in which I knew I was debating an Ashkenazi Jew specifically, but the commitment of that particular Jewish component to scholastic education and intellectual achievement is legendary....
     
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    I agree. Reparations are an inane abomination. Affirmative action at least was trying to bring everything back to some norm, as ill-advised as it was carried out.
     
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    About 4.5 Billion lost to the GNB.
     
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    Don't forget the thousands of jobs lost by pipeline workers is just the tip of the iceberg. Ten times that number of people who were employed downstream of the pipeline workers will lose their jobs, housing values will fall like a rock, businesses will close, and possibly a few entire small towns will completely collapse. Secondly the relatively benign pipeline transport will be replaced by more of the more risky tanker transport. And this all for naught other than a good example of our president not having a clue as to what he's doing.
     
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    And of course the black father was a Kenyan who did not have ancestors in America at the time of slavery.
     
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    Let's see now, there were blacks who owned slaves as did Native American's SO how are reparations going to work out?
     
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    the leftist cabal wants reparations like germany gave to the jews

    it is 157 years overdue
     
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    italy is bankrupt from covid and cannot afford reparations to the german people

    America can afford reparations to the African people.
     
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    Sorry, Libster. The U.S. is 22 TRILLION dollars in debt already, with another 2 Trillion being piled on by Joe Biden within another two weeks. We don't have any 'spare change' laying around in our poor broke-ass country today for scammers, bums, and other parasites!
     
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    The national debt only became a problem with the Republican dogma that it is always a good idea to cut taxes for the rich, and never a good idea to raise them.

    From 1946 to 1980, which was Jimmy Carter's last full year in office, the national debt as a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) declined from 118% to 32%. It declined during the Korean War and the War in Vietnam. \

    https://www.thebalance.com/national-debt-by-year-compared-to-gdp-and-major-events-3306287

    During this time the top tax rate was never lower than 70% and was as high as 92%.

    https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/02inpetr.pdf

    It was only because of Republican tax cuts for the rich that the national debt as a percentage of GDP reached 136% by the end of 2020.

    Republican claim to be in favor of low taxes, high military expenditures, and balanced budgets. They have still not learned the contradiction between the first two and the third.
     
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    Actually, Andrew Jackson came back later and took away the 40 acres and a mule because he was a racist scumbag.
     
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    Most whites never benefited from slavery. In the years leading up to the Civil War the South was the most backward part of the United States, economically and intellectually. Most immigrants from Europe went to the free states because that is where the economic opportunities were. Most of the factories were in the North. This gave the Union a big advantage in the Civil War. Weapons in the North were created by mass production. In the South they were created laboriously by hand by gun smiths.

    Currently whites owe black nothing. We would be better off without them. They would be lost without us. Nowhere on earth is there a black run country with a low crime rate, a flourishing economy, and a well run government.
     
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    the U.S. can afford reparations with further debt slavery to china.

    raising taxes on the rich and middle class will also help.

    'scammers', 'bums', and 'parasites' are entitled.
     
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    Oh, please pardon me... I misunderstood. So, in your opinion, we should go into "further debt slavery to china (sic)"...? And we should do so in order to pay reparations to "'scammers', 'bums', and 'parasites'"...? Well -- you've got your opinion, and, I've got mine.

    But, I think you're just 'pulling my chain' a little bit. I've read enough of your posts for many months to know that you are not (NOT) an brain-dead idiot! Still, you do have a mischievous side, you rascal, you.... :lol:
     
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    Ah, the weakest of arguments. "If you don't like it, then leave" Unfortunately, many businesses in CA have taken your advice and fled to more business friendly states. They took their jobs with them. Of course, I would feel different if our high taxes created a thriving, healthy society. Results show the opposite.
     
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