Obama birth certificate analysis - full documentary online

is dependent on what the definition of facts is.

take our state department for example, those susan rice on the sunday morning shows kinds of facts?

our executive branch appears to have some credibility problems.

alinsky refers to the treatment/presentation of facts or opinion, there's a whole rulebook. he used to hang with al capone.

 

Birthers follow those rules to a "T"- all I know about Alinsky I learned from Birthers.

True story.

 

The facts with regard to the birther conspiracy are very clearly documented, and, the issue has been throughly debunked by numerous sources...

As such, birtherism is wide open for mockery and ridicule...

 

well that simply speaks to your ignorance, not alinsky's background or influence.

 

as any controversy should be. it's a free country.

 

except there is no controversy

 

^^^This right here...

 

really too cryptic.

 

It's not up to anybody...

There is no controversy, except in the feeble minds of the birthers...

 

i don't think it's over, but you can.

 

It's been over...

There just happens to be a small group of people who enjoy looking like idiots in public...

 

Amazing, no matter which site I go to, there are always a small group of Birthers that ignore any facts that crush their so-called date and this site is no exception. Birthers are dead from the neck up and to attempt to discuss the many flaws in their theories is an utter waste of time. At one time, long ago, it was funny watching them chase their tails like nutty dogs, now it is just sad to watch and one begins to wonder if there is something seriously wrong with them and tha they be in need of professional help.

Ok, that is the limit of my time I am willing to waste on the Birther BS, back to reality.

 

certain about what ?

 

we've heard it all before.

 

There are lots of problems with Obama's birth certificate, even if you assume that the document is not doctored as a PDF file

Obama doesn't know his own birthday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wF_n-gn-Yo

He doesn't protest at all when his publicist states that a man selling a memoir is born in another country
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pIvCLyBG4g

And his KENYAN birthplace is already a big attraction in Kenya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH4GX3Otf14&feature=related

Now how many people -- who aren't actively lying -- can boast such anomalies in their history? Not knowing their birthdate, not correcting a publicist who says "born in Kenya", and having a marker hat his Kenyan birthplace, and be seriously believed? I think at the point of "I don't know when I was born" for most people looking for a job, that would be the end. If you claim to be 50 and your resume says you're 54, you don't get hired, because you're either stupid or lying. As far as the publicist, even if by some miracle the publicist did no background other than what he was given, why does Obama wait until 2007 to challenge "Born in Kenya" when his reputation is on the line as a writer of a memoir/autobiography? For that matter, how did no one in the press or the other publishing houses or speaker's clubs notice that he's born in Kenya? Why is it that the ambassador from Kenya mentions a Kenyan Obama birthplace as a tourist attraction? there's quite a lot before we start on the BC itself. If the BC is real, there's no way any of the rest would exist. If Obama gave us his real BC, then he should have no trouble remembering his birthday, he should know enough about his own past to correct a publicist about his birthplace (and care long before his handlers realized that being born in Kenya should disqualify him from the Presidency), and no one outside of the US should be able to point to a shrine at his birthplace anywhere else.

 

it's true though, i was banned from this forum. apuzzo is way smarter than i. different birther altogether. one of the originals though.

 

there are hundreds of anomalies in his "story". it's quite controversial.

he's the transparent "cover-up" president. lots of chicago going on.

 

i have been here about two years i think.

 

everything in this post has already been debunked.

 

not with that screen name, which is why I called you out for being a sock.

 

but you're wrong rahlwong, i am no puppet. lol

 

especially those videos of the "president". they made those in case he couldn't make it to saturday night live.

 

this discussion is interesting to me: it's about the new expert at mr. john woodman's site obamabirthbook

it from: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2937343/posts#comment

There was a time when I would have accepted an objective expert opinion on something like this, but I have since learned that such things just do not exist in our political reality. Now I must first convince myself that the expert does not posses the same sort of political bias as is amply demonstrated by everyone who works in the News and Entertainment industries.
College Professors are known for their liberal tilt here in America. This man seems to be from Brazil. Does this tip the scale more to the right or left? Left I would think. Not only is he a College Professor, but one who is a citizen of a very socialist country.

Should his opinion be accepted at face value? I wouldn't. At least not without better explanations than he has provided. It's like accepting what the Media says at face value.

I happen to know something about computer graphics, image rendering, file formats and compression. (I grew up programing machine code in Hexadecimal .) I have yet to see what I consider to be a reasonable explanation for why different characters in the same word would be rendered in different bit depths and resolutions.



There is no mechanical process or algorithm of which I can conceive that would make this result a reasonable byproduct. Whatever process or algorithm that chose the bit depth and pixel resolution for the letter "A" should have chosen the same bit depth and pixel resolution for the letter "R".

Changing formats mid word accomplishes no useful benefit in terms of compression or clarity for the document. It produces no optimum effect. In fact, it destroys whatever benefit might be obtained from choosing one format or the other. (Clarity or Compressibility.) Why would any sanely written piece of software make such a decision?

What value or benefit can be obtained by mixing two different formats in the same word? That simply does not make any sense, and I have yet to hear from anyone explaining how it should make some sort of sense.

 

Heh- this is so funny- The posse used 'experts' who were demonstratably biased and who aren't really experts.

So how do they refute a real expert- a man who has numerous patents on the very technology that Birthers can't understand- the best they can come up with is that he is a 'professor'- from a 'very socialist country'?

Socialist? Seriously.

If so- Brazil is a rocking example of how Socialism works- since it has one of the best growth rates in the world right now. Brazilian middle class are buying condo's in Florida.

 

obama was a "professor"... lol

i think brasil still has a lot of poverty and class/political division, still worse than here.

but back to "president" lead-from-behind. this new expert is one more guy weighingi in on a virtual concept. the fact that they found this guy in south america tells me they couldn't find anyone in this country to get involved, same as our situation. and since you all used woodman as the final debunking authority, and woodman himself sought out more expert opinion is also telling and flys in the face of it being over. even you obots don't think it's over... now why is that j ? this observation is just common sense. ockham's razor.

it was meant to be a distraction to stop people from learning about and demanding the original, if there is one.

people are still looking for answers, new experts introduced at this time, woodman keeps coming out of retirement, these are all signs. it's a popular subject.

yet all of you spend a lot of time on this and keep coming back, at the same time saying it's a waste of time and a dead forgotten /issuecontroversy.

but here we still are, five years later. if the roles were reversed and i kept saying it was nothing, you would call me a liar, i won't put you in that position.

i think we are discovering the essence of obama transparency, in his campaign, and about libya.