Obama birth certificate analysis - full documentary online

I will try to deal with that defect.

 

Well lets think this through shall we?

The Posse says that there are some issues with layers on the image of the BC that was posted on the internet.

Let us review:

Obama showed the hard copy to reporters, and afterwards posted on the internet a copy that was shown to reporters. One reporter also took a photo with her phone of the hard copy and posted it on the internet.

Hawaii has confirmed that the photo posted on the internet is the image of the BC they provided to the President.

So tell me- why do you care what the Posse says about 'layers'?

How on earth does that affect the fact that Hawaii has said that the image is correct and that Obama was born in Hawaii?

Really- tell me how your rational has thought this through.

 

Yes, I went to college, in fact I have an MBA from Harvard so I know what it costs to go there. In the years that Obama attended there was a block on the application for religious preference. I don't know if obama filled it out or left it blank, do you?

Now, you do know that there are several lawsuits from "birthers" don't you? Obama has paid lawyers to prevent any of those suits from coming to a court, why? because if any one of them reached a court room there would be a discovery request for his college records- amoung other things. So you are wrong, obama has paid lawyers to keep YOU and ME from seeing his college records

Have you ever applied for a job? Did they ask if you had a degree? did they ask from what college? did you sign a release allowing them of verify the degree? Yes, you did. So why don't the same rules apply to obama when he asks for a job as our president?

He claims to have had student loans, has anyone seen them? He also claims to have had scholarships, what kind? how much?

and counter to what some earlier posters said, we did see Bush's Princeton records and the libs were ranting about him being an average student. Claiming he was too dumb to be president.

But you don't care who obama is or whether any of his claims are true, you just worship him and want him to control every aspect of your life. Its insanity.

 

What relevance have you imagined this has?

none of the birther lawsuits have anything to do with college records. And birthers have lost every single lawsuit to date. thats 137-0.

nonsense. dozens of those cases went to court, and every one was lost by the birthers.

nonsense. college records have no relevance to place of birth.

flat out pants on fire lie. his records are protected by federal law, just like yours. he hasn't paid a single penny keeping them out of the public.

because there is no requirement in the constitution that a president even has to attend college, let alone hand over his transcripts. which is why not a single president has ever released theirs.

these questions are all irrelevant to eligibility. have you asked romney how he paid for college? has anyone seen how he paid? did he have loans? what kind? scholarships? how much?

his princeton records were leaked. so you claim remains false. none of the people you mentioned released their records.

the correct statement would be, you don't care about who anyone is other than obama, which is why you have never demanded the records of any previous candidate or president, only obama.

 

OK, you are an obamabot, I get it. You worship his every word, he is your messiah. He can do no wrong. He should be king of the entire world. I get it.

But once again, if any birther suit gets to a court, there will be a discovery request for his college records because they might contain data significant to the suit. Its not complicated if you actually come away from the obama shrine for a few minutes and actually think.

 

and you are wrong, not one of them has actually reached a hearing in a court. they have all been stopped by Obama's lawyers.

 

lol, this is the best you can do after having your entire post destroyed?

did you miss the part where dozens of birther lawsuits made it to court? college records have no relevance, in any way, to eligibility. The birthers could file a discovery motion for them, and the judge would toss it out as irrelevant.

 

No court would accept such , dismissed as without merit and baseless.

 

birther stupidity knows no bounds...............

you can see a more complete list of cases heard at this link...........http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_presidential_eligibility_litigation

 

They fail because they are all baseless...

 

None of those cases made it to a trial. they were dismissed at a preliminary hearing. If one of them comes to trial there will be lots of discovery items asked for by both sides. It would be perfectly logical to ask for obama's admission applications to the colleges he attended.

you can post all the dem talking points that you wish, but the fact remains----obama's past has successfully been hidden from the american people.

 

What the hell are you talking about?!

 

I hate to treat you guys like juveniles, but if the shoe fits--------a preliminary hearing is not a trial. There have been no trials on birther cases. and I am not saying that any of them have merit, my only point is that if any ever comes to trial, his college records will be asked for and disclosed to the jury.

 

I hate to treat you guys like juveniles, but if the shoe fits--------a preliminary hearing is not a trial. There have been no trials on birther cases. and I am not saying that any of them have merit, my only point is that if any ever comes to trial, his college records will be asked for and disclosed to the jury.

 

I would give equal credence to each of your first three claims, and rather doubt there was a block for Obama to fill out. But by all means- prove me wrong- show me that Harvard Law had such a block when Obama applied.

There have been over 100 birther lawsuits that have been filed and lost. Obama has been a defendent in very few of these lawsuits, and no one knows how much or any Obama has paid any attorney's. One we know worked pro-bono in the few minutes it took to get the case dismissed. None of these cases were about his college records, because of course- his college records have absolutely nothing to do with any President's eligibility. Obama has not paid a cent to prevent you from seeing his college records.

Just like Romney.

Because we have a U.S. Constitution that applies to Obama and all Presidents and it has no provision for 'college records'- all it requires is that the President be 35 years or older, a resident for 14 years and a natural born citizen. The choice of who will be President is left to the voters- and in 2008 they decided that they prefered Obama- who hadn't shown us is college records- over McCain- who hadn't shown us his college records.

Nope- just like I have seen zero evidence out of how any President has ever paid for college. I have this wierd compulsion to treat all Presidents equally- even President Obama.

Hmmm I can state pretty conclusively that we never saw Bush's Princeton records. Since Bush never went to Princeton.

Bush's Yale records were leaked to the press. We never saw Bush's Harvard records- you know just like we never saw Obama's.

So just to repeat: you were wrong about Bush's records, and every single claim you made about every other candidates college records was either wrong or a flat out lie- you choose.

I care about what is true. The verifiable truth is that President Obama is our legally elected President, that he graduated from Columbia and Harvard.

But what you are talking about is speculation, innuendo and outright lies. Why do you put so much into speculation about this specific President when no President has ever willingly provided the information you demand is required from Obama?

 

There have been no trials because there is no merit. Most of the cases have been dismissed for standing- but several cases have been dismissed for cause. In one particular and memorable case- Judge Malithi let Birthers present all of the evidence that they had- and ruled against them because they had no evidence.

This is the essentially delusion of Birthers. You don't get to go to court and get discovery just because you think should get it. You have to prove to a judge that there is evidence of a case- and then convince the judge that any discovery is relevant. Obama's college records are no more relevant to his eligiblity than his circumcision records.

Birthers have no evidence and want the courts to order a treasure hunt to find the evidence that they are convinced exists but they haven't been able to find any of. But luckily here in America it doesn't work that way.

 

How about proving your claim that McCain and Hilary had shown their college records? I would like to see that shoe fit.

 

i just (*)(*)(*)(*)ing gave you a case that mot only made it to trial, but made it to the indiana court of appeals.

Like i said, birther stupidity knows no bounds

 

I just provided a case that went to trial as well as a link to dozens of others that also made it to trial

 

it went to trial ? i thought there was only one instance of discovery permitted, then jablonski was a no show and won. i think he is on the state election advisory board, and as obama's lawyer. bet he's got some stories. discovery is a pre trial phase, no ?





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To achieve this goal, Secretary of State Brian Kemp formed the Secretary of State’s Elections Advisory Council (EAC). The EAC reviewed the Georgia Election Code and State Election Board Rules throughout 2011 to make recommendations that improve and strengthen Georgia’s election laws and procedures. In particular, the EAC looked for improvements that create cost savings and increase efficiencies for state, county and local governments.

The EAC is comprised of the following experienced election officials and leaders from across Georgia:

Lynn Bailey, Executive Director, Richmond County Board of Elections
Richard Barclift, Elections Superintendent, City of Chickamauga
Todd Blackwell, Baldwin County Probate Judge and Elections Superintendent
Nancy Boren, Director, Muscogee County Office of Elections and Voter Registration
State Senator Hardie Davis (D - Augusta)
State Representative Mark Hamilton (R - Cumming)
Mike Jablonski, General Counsel, Democratic Party of Georgia
State Representative Rusty Kidd (I - Milledgeville)
Beth Kish, Elections and Registration Manager, Cobb County Board of Elections & Registration
Anne Lewis, General Counsel, Georgia Republican Party
Charles Schwabe, Mayor, City of Swainsboro
David Shock, Associate Professor of Political Science, Kennesaw State University
Jeff “Bodine” Sinyard, Chairman, Dougherty County Commission
Charlotte Sosebee, Hall County Elections Director
State Senator Cecil Staton (R - Macon)
The EAC conducted meetings in Atlanta, Savannah,

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http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp...pw.r_qf.&fp=1b2bb99eba1713c0&biw=1600&bih=799

dr. goldcoin says he was at the original trial for both cases. this is the first original birth certificate ?

i'd like to see the trial, was it transcribed or videoed ?

 

Nothing there...

Were you getting at something?

 

Good point. Where are these 'amazing findings' Trump's 'people' were going to disclose, and which the birthers on this forum were wetting themselves about last year? Still waiting...

 

the trial in indiana. i missed it, i think it was before my time as a birther.

 

http://fleming-hayes.com/2011/05/obamas-classmate-at-columbia-raises-new-questions/

interesting article, raises some real questions. Opinions?