obama birth certificate media malpractice scandal and more to come.....

Nineteen of 20 cabinet-level agencies disobeyed the law requiring the disclosure of public information: The cost of travel by top officials. In all, just eight of the 57 federal agencies met Bloomberg’s request for those documents within the 20-day window required by the Act.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...sclosure-test-with-19-in-20-ignoring-law.html


i remember a while ago that this administration wouldn't be saving email records. this is no big surprise to we the birthers.

 

reality sucks doesn't it.

 

i'd love for alan west or herman cain to be president. condoleeza rice or joe lieberman, or jindhal or rubio. you would too right rahl ??

if not check this box and explain why.

 

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/swing-state-stunner-dreams-mailed-to-2-7-million/

 

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http://www.examiner.com/article/tru...nt-s-campaign-responds-to-newspaper-with-link

 

On KPHO-TV in Phoenix, AZ at 3:30 p.m. during the “People’s Court”, a tally of the election results appeared briefly at the bottom of the screen. With 99% of the vote in, Obama was ahead by 3%. So? So, it appeared on OCTOBER 19th, eighteen days before the General Election. The station explained it away as a “test graphic”. The interesting coincidence is that Pres. Obama ultimately won on Nov. 6 by 3.1%

from the internet

RUN forrest !

 

[video=youtube;MwhKuunp8D8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwhKuunp8D8&feature=player_embedded[/video]

i never saw this before. it has nearly six million views...

 

poor sad birthers

 

psr...

 

i know the american media hasn't handled this situation in a normal fashion, which is a story in of itself.

Democrat demands Obama eligibility hearing now


i hope this finds it's way into any courtroom. the supreme court must define natural born. other than that my only question remains, did obama ever cover anything up, or does he know about any cover ups.

seems pretty simple, if everything till now is laid out before a judge, or mr. obama could just open that darned vault in hawaii.

 

this is new.

[video=youtube;7d-Jx4gAA2o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7d-Jx4gAA2o#![/video]

 

this is new.

[video=youtube;7d-Jx4gAA2o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7d-Jx4gAA2o#![/video]

 

LOL... there is no "Arpaio investigation." No investigation at all.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/116752480/The-Annotated-Zullo

 

You are visiting the Wong thread.....

 

this gets weirder by the day.

 

Only to the already confused.

 

i think that we're all still here is testimony to something, not sure what....

 

you keep reading too much into having stupidity pointed out.

 

you keep reading too much into having stupidity pointed out.

 

this is like old times... thanks you guys. this is the best christmas ever.

 

me say first, that i have no skills or even knowledge that neccessarily pertain to this controversy. i am a nobody in birther notability an as frank called me, one of the weakest voices in the birther chorus. what i do have is curiosity and good instincts about people trying to sell something that may or may not be true. even the most hard core obots cannot claim that there is or was no controversy about obama's story and the ever mounting questions that ensue. the best thing i have going for me in this quest is the egos and the condescending nature, and the vehemence of the antibirthers. in my short study i have seen fairly normal people and websites grow from cordial to disgrundled, to abject hate. i personally have been called every name in the book, racist stupid, mentally ill... some words i've never heard before. some of the work and comments i've read at kevin's and john woodman's and the fogbow have transcended the purpose for which they were designed. they are articulated thru vengence and hostility, amplified by mob mentality. the operators of these sites are complicit to these cries, in some cases, they enable and encourage race baiting and non material related attacks.

when the smoke clears away, i always ask: why all this for a silly ridiculous non issue made up laid to rest controversy that "hasn't existed" for going on six years now. i have nothing invested in this, i'm not a republican, i have never made a penny from being a birther, nor have i ever solicited donations or sold a book or profited in any way from this ongoing interesting, yet somewhat sordid affair.

let's take this slowly, shall we.


rather than take these points in order, i think i'll address them as i recognise them.

one of the great tools in the antibirther arsenal is ridicule an excoriation applied as a double standard. a red flag for me has been how the agressor attacks the credentials and character of their given target, in this case mr. zullo.

It was quickly proved by anti-birther investigators that Zullo was deliberately lying and presenting fabricated evidence to fraudulently make this claim. 71 72 73 (footnotes)

these "notations". lead to a website run by a guy who calls himself "doctor" conspiracy.

now, i was wondering about the investagatory skills or credentials or experience kevin davidson has to be cited as a reference in wong's piece. one of the things frank (wong) talks about is a predisposition to birtherism as a characteristic, and i was wondering if that logic works both ways.

i don't know if kevin is a doctor or not, but i do know that he produced a site called obots.com for sometime in secret. there is a direct line of communication with "doctor" conspiracy and the fogbow, radio check and john woodman, who is the self professed expert of birtherism, forensic computer documents, constitutional eligibility, etc. woodman is the author of obamabirthbook.com website and book on that subject.

that pretty much describes/lists the antibirther community.

now, my question is: do we apply the same standard of credibilty and objectivity uniformly ? i did find this at "doctor" conspiracy's website cited above.

Mike Zullo has never shown up here as a commenter so far as I know (not under his real name at least), but he is certainly welcome to do so. Lacking the real Mike Zullo, the cross-examination dialog that I’m going to present will attempt to put words into his mouth, words that he might say. In the dialog, I will do the questioning. Text labeled “Mike Zullo” are his actual words in public statements, and text labeled “Faux Zullo” are my idea of what he might say. The context is Mike Zullo being cross-examined on the testimony he gave at Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s press conference July 17, 2012.

I’ll try to do my best Perry Mason imitation, and I will certainly treat Zullo as a hostile witness.


http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/the-cross-examination-of-mike-zullo-introduction/

please tell me that your argument is not depending on a guy who calls himself doctor that isn't, and he is not one of the "antibirther investigators" you use to undermine mr. zullo.

are there other "antibirther" investigators frank ? are you considered to be an investigator ?

what do the "special police" at the borough of Demarist do. i don't know the answer frank, but i'm curious if you do.... did you ask that question ? http://www.demarestnj.net/Police.php

let's start with that, shall we.

 

Oh? When have I ever said anything vaguely similar to that?

No. It's not. First, I make no argument on this issue. I am not merely "arguing" that what Zullo attempted in the July 17th Press conference was fraudulent. It is an established, unassailable fact that Zullo lied, specifically and fraudulently misrepresenting coding manuals from other years as being from 1961. The evidence is so conclusive that you yourself don't even try to challenge it.

Second, he's not the only reference I use to make this point. Certainly you noticed that. Have you tried to verify or contradict the evidence? Or are you simply going to try to toss out red herring in the attempt to distract attention from the fakery?

Third, Dr. Conspiracy has managed to do something no equivalent birther has managed, established a comprehensive track record of actually being right. So he can call himself Daffy Duck for all I care, he is a superior source of information and . If I were to depend on him for this argument, nobody is in any genuine position to complain about it.

Fourth and finally, he actually has extensive professional qualifications in the area of vital records, vital records information systems, and the technology and processes associated with their collection, storage and retrieval. Did you not know that?

Of course. I offered you three citations for that point representing two different investigators. Did you actually not read them before you decided this would be your first point of attack? A little sloppy, don't you think?

There are others. And you know that too, so it's odd that you ask.

Not by me, no.

Yes. They provide crowd control at outdoor events, like the 4th of July fireworks and concerts in the park.

 

have you spoken to the chief about zullo ?