obama birth certificate: new poll

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by scott e., Feb 19, 2014.

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do you still have doubts about his story and documentation/provenance

  1. it will never be in the headlines again

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  2. i think there will be more

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  3. i still have reservations and doubt

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  4. i am satisfied, let's forget about it.

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  1. scott e.

    scott e. New Member

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    The Republicans really embarrassed themselves with this issue. I'd hope they would give it a rest. Even if he wasn't born here, he is just as much a citizen as Ted Cruz, who people want to run (he was born in Canada).
     
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    The thing that escapes most people is that even if he was born in Nigeria............he was still an American citizen because his mother was American. You can have dual citizenship up until the age of 24 and then you have to choose one or the either. The entire argument is moot.
     
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    Enough about President Obama's birth certificate. Everyone knows there's something different about it and it's obvious that he's all black and that his biological mother is not white. What difference does it make where he was born? He's still America's greatest and beloved president ever. And that's all that matters.

    Geography now has far less importance. It's a merged and condensed world of international peoples. Being 'murican no longer has an aura of authority attached to it.

    Thank you.
     
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    it's not now, nor was it ever a republican issue, and I'm certainly no republican..:cool:

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    please don't join us insincerely...
     
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    unless there's a coverup, as with the Benghazi affair. that's always been my focus, along with the media and the fogbots... strange behavior.

    I've never heard a Nigeria theory before now.
     
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    I'm just curious why the certificate first posted online by the White House was claimed to be a "direct scan of the original" but could be saved and opened with Photoshop and shown that all parts were separate layers.

    Was there ever an explanation for this?
     
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    The horse is DEAD please stop beating it and bury the damn thing before it stinks out more than the neighbourhood
     
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    It was a legitimate question, I don't follow the birth certificate topic.

    All I remember was a friend in design telling me to open the doc and release all layers and to my surprise this "direct scan of the original" had a dozen difference pieces.

    If it was as simple as some art tech at the WH doing a little touch up for the sake of presentation that's one thing, but since nothing was ever said and the document + original description was removed shortly after ...it begs the question.

    So I'll ask again, was there ever an explanation for this?
     
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    Why does it matter? America is one of the few countries with this law. A law that precludes many citizens from becoming president through accident of birth
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    Okay. The original was destroyed as any birth certificate that old in Hawaii has been. It was scanned and is stored electronically. The governor of Hawaii (who happens to be a Republican) has looked and and confirmed it is there on record. Besides, you also have the 2 newspaper announcements of birth as well. Let's face it, at this point even the folks who claim he "shouldn't be eligible" or he's "not a real American" or "Kenyan" know their full of crap when they claim it.
     
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    There are just soooo many good cartoons out there!!

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    and there is truth in humour - the refusal of some to accept has become ludicrous
     
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    Basically the US government posted a document claiming it to be one thing then, upon citizens discovering its another thing entirely, took down that document and offering up no explanation.

    Now that document could have been anything anything but because it involves your beloved messiah you would rather respond with mockery and meme's than entertain a completely legitimate question.



    And why should it matter? Argument or validity of his birth place aside, its a law. Regardless of how many other countries have similar laws, or regardless of if you think it should be followed or not. Its a law so it matters.

    Now unfortunate due to your twice childish responses I'm afraid I can no longer devote any more time to reading your posts on this matter.
     
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    That is not answering the question - why does it matter WHERE he was born?? AS far as I can tell it is a silly law - about equivalent and relevant as wearing black on Sunday
     
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    But Ted Cruz isn't the President. Will someone please show me where African American or African, was a term used by official government sources in 1961??? I joined the military in 1963 and was told that the ONLY 3 races that were acknowledged by the Government were Caucasian, Negroid, and Mongolian. Nothing else was recognized. So tell us, with either of the supposed "Official" Obama birth certificates that have been offered, how are we suppose to believe either one or any they would bring up now????

    As far as Ted Cruz goes his father;

    The elder Cruz fled Cuba in 1957 at the age of 18, landing in Austin, becoming a Cuban émigré, to study at the University of Texas, knowing no English and with $100 sewn into his underwear. His younger sister fought in the counter-revolution and was tortured by the new regime. He remained regretful for his early support of Castro, and emphatically conveyed this remorse to his young son over the following years.[13][20] The elder Cruz worked his way through college as a dishwasher, making 50 cents an hour, earning a degree in mathematics. Cruz's father today is a pastor in Carrollton, Texas, a Dallas suburb, and became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 2005.

    His mother was;

    Cruz's mother was born and raised in Wilmington, Delaware, in a family of Irish and Italian descent. She was the first person in her family to attend college. She earned an undergraduate degree in mathematics from Rice University in Houston in the 1950s, working summers at Foley's and Shell Oil. She later worked in Houston as a computer programmer at Shell. Cruz has said, "I'm Cuban, Irish, and Italian, and yet somehow I ended up Southern Baptist."

    So BOTH parents were American Citizens and just out of the country because the job took them there, unlike Obama's father who was never a citizen of this nation and an avoid communist.
     
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    O.K., utter idiot, since the Government in 1961 ONLY recognized NEGROID on official documents as to what the black race was how did the term African get there on his birth certificate??? African was NOT officially recognized as a RACE!!!
     
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    Hummm...., you might want to re-think that one;

    Children born overseas to married parents
    If one parent is a U.S. citizen and the other parent is not, the child is a citizen if the U.S. citizen parent has been "physically present" in the U.S. before the child's birth for a total period of at least five years, and at least two of those five years were after the U.S. citizen parent's fourteenth birthday.
     
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    """ What difference does it make where he was born?"""

    We have one here that has NEVER read the Constitution of this nation!!!

    """"He's still America's greatest and beloved president ever. """

    Huuuuu...., hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ...... ....... ...... ........ ....... ....... hehehehehehehehehehehehe......... ...... ,.,,,,,,,,,,..........

    The only person that LOVES Obama is Carter, because Obama made Carter look GOOOOOODS!!! HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE

    """"Geography now has far less importance."""

    Not according to the Constitution which you have NEVER bothered to read!!!

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    Hey, Bower, the horse is NOT dead, just hidden.
     
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    """ Let's face it, at this point even the folks who claim he "shouldn't be eligible" or he's "not a real American" or "Kenyan" know their full of crap when they claim it."""

    Tell that to his Grandmother that claimed to have been there when he was born!!!
     
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    Ummmm sure keep sending money to Orley lol!!! Really this cracks me up!
     
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    That's certainly the way Carnival Cruz would see it.

    I'm truly sorry to see this lunatic "issue" consigned to a remnant of feeble blips in the brain-dead.

    The President faking birth announcements in two Hawaiian newspapers was incredibly precocious, even if it was Constitutionally irrelevant. You can't expect a newborn, however bright, to be attuned to the Constitution's finer points.

    As I have suggested before, I would love to see Obama, when he leaves office, announce his plans to return to the distant land of his nativity where he can while away his dotage practicing Islamic socialism as an African witch doctor in an alternate lifestyle with Bill Ayers.

    If he could pull that off with a straight face, the Angry White Geezers would blow a gasket!
     
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    lol And the newspapers? Where the newspapers in on this conspiracy to make it seem like some random baby was born in Hawaii when it really wasn't? If so, why? Was there a conspiracy to make this little mixed baby the President someday from birth?
     
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    Isn't it funny the liberals stick their heads in the sand and say "he showed his birth cert, stop beating a dead horse" but when it comes to George Zimmerman, being ruled not guilty by a jury of his peers didn't even BEGIN to put that issue to rest.

    Liberals are the biggest hypocrites to ever occupy this nation.

    According to Article 2, Section 1 of the constitution, in order to be a natural born citizen, BOTH parents must be citizens at the time of the childs birth. His father was NOT a US citizen. Just because he dropped out of his moms vagina in Hawaii doesn't make him eligible to be president. This is backed up with the language in an 1875 voting rights case—Minor v. Happersett—in support of its claim that the U.S. Supreme Court has defined natural-born citizens as "all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens." It's pretty cut and dry, the man is not eligible to be president, but since he produced a photoshopped birth cert, the liberals put their heads back in the sand. So be it.

    http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/10/28/41005.htm

    http://libertylegalfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Federal-DNC-Complaint.pdf
     
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    Its good to see there are a few hardcore whackjobs who will actually persist in their madcap shtick!

    Carry on.
     

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