Obama sending 3,000 troops into the heart of the Ebola zone in Africa.

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  1. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    they learned something from colonialism, especially algeria

    it's too bad we don't seem to have done the same

    [video=youtube;XeMWdueGTZ4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeMWdueGTZ4[/video]
     
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    J0NAH Banned

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    there is plenty of evidence and links posted. It's not like Europeans haven't got a recent history of experimenting on afrikans and causing thousands of deaths. The nazi camps that preceded hitlers experiments are testament, Namibia. Also we have human zoos in Belgium and eugenic programmes in America. What makes you think anything has change, it's just become more covert
     
  3. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    no there isn't

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    yea, i remember a few years ago when only 13-year-olds on myspace and youtube knew about it

    funny how most of them seem to forget about it when they grow up some, the illuminati sure is tricky
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    maybe Ebola is a blessing in disguise.
     
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    J0NAH Banned

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    ah but of course, you subscribe to the 'nazi's-died-when-hitler-died' junior school of thought.
     
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    German Medical Society Apologizes for Nazi-era Atrocities by Doctors!

    "These crimes were not the actions of individual doctors but involved leading members of the medical community…and should be taken as a warning for the future"

    You want the link, just ask. ireally would rather not discuss this further as it is history but the point is still valid and it is not too long ago. it is just to emphasize that these ppl do exist and they didnt just vanish into thin air.
     
  7. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    no i don't


    i was aware of nazi medical experiments, over 45 years ago

    what do your vague insinuations have to do with evidence that they're

    spreading ebola by creating hybrids that are more deadly than the original strain?
     
  8. J0NAH

    J0NAH Banned

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    that these people have previous recent history of having no regard for the life of Afrikans.
     
  9. SixNein

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    Western nations hold quite a bit of responsibility for the situation in Western Africa. The slave trade and colonialism in general tore that place to shreds. And the west has never made an attempt at reparation; as a result, these nations are required to rebuild a civilization from practically nothing. In those types of situations, people often turn to what they see as tough leaders in a desperate situation. Of course, these leaders are almost always scrupulous. And this sort of thing isn't unique to Western Africa. For example, most people don't evaluate presidents on their actions; instead, they evaluate them on speeches. Another example would be how Hitler came to power in Germany.

    The local governments have been doing a lot; however, they don't have a great deal of resources, and they are also dealing with a mostly uncooperative public. In addition, their economies are now pretty firmly in what can only be called a depression. So we have to be sort of realistic about their abilities.

    These stories don't go into a great deal of detail about their security situation outside of the fact that they were attacked. I think most reporters are having to get their news second or third hand. IE: they hear from the aid groups. But occasionally, we get a more complete picture. For example, read the following article.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...Guinea-Ebola-riots-local-government-says.html

    As you can see, the security situation there is very complicated. But to the point of above, almost 30 officers were injured trying to protect a medical team.

    Many of those "white" nations caused the situation in many of the "black" nations. When Hitler robbed the Jews, we made sure that the Jews got reparation; however, we never gave the black communities reparation even here within America. To make an analogy with Jews, it would be like us allowing the Nazi's to keep all of the Jewish possessions, and we telling the Jews how thankful they should be that we let them out of the gas chambers in the first place. Afterwards, we (*)(*)(*)(*) on them as they struggle to make something out of nothing. We tell ourselves that we're superior with higher IQ's than a group of people who thanks to poverty has lower IQs. And on and on it goes. We didn't even do that to Germany even though they were on the battlefield against us. We seen to rebuilding their nation and even Japans. If you go to Washington, you'll hardly find a brick laying on-top of another that wasn't put there by some slave. Our nation became rich off of slave labor. Blacks in America are just one generation out of segregation, and we continuously (*)(*)(*)(*) on them by calling them things like "welfare queens."

    In general, it's very easy for one group of people to criticize another when the group has never been in such a situation.
     
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    that doesn't change the fact that you've presented no valid evidence
     
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    Evidence for what?
     
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    evidence for what you said


     
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    How many British "treatment centers", and how many thousands of British military personnel are there in Africa, Snake...? Just a few links to this information will be very much appreciated....
     
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    did you even read the info at the link he posted? it supports exactly what he said
     
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    How else did the virus become so deadly as to kill a dozen trained professional doctors that had been dealing with this virus for 10 years?
     
  16. dujac

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    viruses have been evolving and mutating on their own for millions of years

    the more you comment, the more my previous characterization seems valid

     
  17. Pollycy

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    Not one word in there about the British sending 3,000 of Her Majesty's Army personnel to equatorial Africa to build, run, and defend "treatment centers". There was a lot of verbiage doing many other things, jac, but that's confusing "apples and oranges". I want to know how many other countries are going to do exactly what our own President Ding-a-Ling has committed OUR United States military personnel to do, in Africa, in person.

    WHOA! STOP! So now you want to drag out a "race card", complete with "White guilt" and the reparations nonsense? Not to ME you won't.

    Blacks had been taking other Blacks as slaves in Africa for thousands of years, and sometime in the early 17th Century, they started selling them to Whites who had begun trading for various commodities in Africa for a number of decades, and the slaves were brought to the Western Hemisphere. Over the years to come, slaves were bought and used by all Europeans with any territory in the Americas. But, surely you already know this... you don't write like an ignorant person.

    Question: because my German ancestors were brutally abducted, abused, and taken as slaves by the Roman Empire, am I entitled to sue to the Italian government for reparations in 2014?! In spite of this degradation and dominance by the Roman Empire, the German people came out of it all quite well. They went on to achieve triumphs in many different endeavors -- science, architecture, art, music, literature, mathematics, medicine, and so on.

    Why couldn't Black Africans do the same? Anthropologists agree that human civilization began in Africa! Why did Black African civilization simply stagnate and degenerate into a moribund "stone-age" nothingness instead of forging on as all the other civilizations did?

    No. You aren't going to sell me on "White Man's Burden" or any of that long-ago discredited nonsense. We Americans owe HUMANITY our best effort at developing medicines, and all the research and development needed to finally find and produce a cure for, and a vaccine for Ebola. But NOT because White societies owe Blacks, per se, anything....
     
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    I didn't drag out the race card. You did. You started thinking about the issue in terms of skin color. I offered a rebuttal to the notion.

    Slavery was not invented in the 17th century, and it existed in much of the world; however, you're ignoring the history of colonialism and its impact on these areas.

    Are you implying that since some governments in history got way with atrocities, we should let all governments get away with atrocities? Are the Nazis entitled to keep Jewish possessions?

    You go on to compare two separate situations in two different periods of time as if they are the same.

    You should realize then that skin color is a rather silly measurement. It would be just as silly to try to measure things in terms of eye or hair color. The reality of the situation is very complex.

    For example, take a look at the middle east. At one time, the middle east was an intellectual powerhouse. We teach Arabic words like algebra and algorithm to our children, and we explain to them that they are important concepts. But if you look at the middle east today, intellectualism doesn't jump out at you. The story of how they got that way isn't as simple as "brown" skin. The story about Africa isn't any different.
     
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    notice how he didn't say anything about the british


    then you should find out, instead of sitting in your high chair, whining about it and expecting to be spoon fed
     
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    What are the names of the Muslim extremists which are located in West Africa? Do you suppose they will not try to harm these unsecured American military medical personnel?
     
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    we're sending personnel to handle them
     
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    You can't kill the plague with an M-4 Carbine, get those guys the hell out of there you blithering idiot! (not you knife, ODUMMER)
     
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    Talk about dumb what the hell are the troops going to do? Shoot ebola? Troops are for combat, doctors are for diseases. Why do troops need to go? Where are the other nations? Why is it always our guys lives on the line? If you want to protect these doctors, get other nations on board. Where is that "coalition" Obama keeps talking about?

    I guess ODUMMER hasn't figured that one out yet.
     
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    protect the clinics where doctors are treating the sick


     
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    Why only us? Why in this country? These troops can get sick themselves. Where are the other nations? Why is only us all the damn time? This is not our nations problem. We have our own issues, lets take care of ourselves first because history has shown ain't nobody helps us when we need it. We bailed out France, Poland and England in WW2. We bailed out SK in that war. Vietnam. The list goes on. On 9/11 we provided the huge majority of combat troops. Why is that? There are nations with BILLIONS of people that didn't provide a single troop in GW2. (*)(*)(*)(*) THOSE PEOPLE.

    I used to be for wars, hey lets go pound dirt but then I realized reality. We're the only ones. Nations will briefly join us, and then the war becomes unpopular in their nation and they bug out. Screw those people. I'm like Rand Paul. (*)(*)(*)(*) the world. Pull out of every nation and let them deal with their own problems. If you (*)(*)(*)(*) with us, we nuke your ass. You got ebola outbreak, too bad. Diseases have swept humanity for thousands of years. It's part of the Earth's population control measures. It's nothing we need to remove troops from their families for.

    Protecting medical centers? Isn't that what the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing police are for? Protecting medical centers? Don't you hire security guard companies for that? But the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing military? (*)(*)(*)(*) that.
     

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