Obama Social Security Number To Become Issue In 2012 Race

His selective service registration is unavailable. So, there's no proof he ever used that number. Do you have a screen shot or something you can show me?

 

And hence lies the biggest hypocrisy of Obamabots, of which you're undoubtedly one. Everyone (including you) know his service registration record was available on the internet; everyone (including you) seen it a hundred times, in this very conspiracy section. But because it is no longer available on the selective service site, it suits you just fine to proclaim "it is not there, therefore it never was"... your only interest lies in quashing every voice which raises doubt in Obama's story. I was not sure about you, counselor, and now I am - just another Obamabot, and not the best of them

 

My point in making that statement was that the birthers accept innuendo and third-hand information and nebulous screen shots as evidence.

Yet real evidence, they dismiss out of hand.

Unsurprisingly, you didn't pick up on that, because you're one of them.

 

I absolutely love birther logic.

"there is no proof available that obama's social security number can be matched to his selective service record. therefore this is proof that the number was used for his selective service registration"

birthers are (*)(*)(*)(*)ing retarded.

 

Follow the link, Darryl. It's not my opinion.

 

That's pure bull's crap (pun's fully enjoyed). You've stepped in it one more time, and you know it.

I truly feel sad for your future clients, councilor.

 

Only the Birthers here didn't get it. Dutch.

Sucks to be you.

 

I know whatcha mean Wong, but your own lowyer (no misspelling here) outdid himself this time, showing your true collective face, and these who can see, will see it.

As for how it is to be me, I'm just fine and dandy, fine and dandy, enjoying fine cigar with a glass of Camus... thanks for asking

 

And you expect me to do your homework. My 4th grade grand daughter knows how to google. I suggest you do that because it is obvious that you aren't going to believe me. But will you be honest enough with yourself when you find the truth to accept it ?

 

Do you have a screen shot or something you can show me?-----YES but you know you can google it yourself. You don't want to believe what I say so why should I supply any research to you that you can get yourself?

 

Wrong again. You have a gift.

I have lost count of the number of times you have misquoted or deliberately misinterpreted what your opponents have said and then spent all your effort crowing about straw men, never noticing that Birthism is dead.

 

No... he expects you to defend your bull sh*t.

 

Well, more evidence of exactly what I said can be found right here, with Apuz... I mean, "jollyroger's" latest post...

See? This is typical birther evidentiary analysis.

Statements of the issuing authority saying Obama's birth certificate is real, CIA and NSA government clearances granted to Obama, hundreds of court-case smackdowns of their stupid arguments, Republican Congressmen and political leaders saying there is no issue with his eligibility, Supreme Court justices saying he is eligible, Supreme Court precedent establishing the law on natural-born citizens, the Social Security Administration saying there's no issue, the IRS tax returns never flagging any issue with his SSN or identity, all of that stuff, to birthers, is not evidence, or even more ridiculous, is evidence of a giant conspiracy.

An unsourced screenshot passed around like schoolchildren playing The Telephone Game that shows virtually nothing... That, according to the birthers, is absolutely positively 100% conclusive proof that he is an illegal ineligible identity-defrauding Muslim terrorist Manchurian candidate ursurper.

It's idiotic.

 

Dunno why I'm wasting my time, but let me once again enlighten you, Counselor - what you call "An unsourced screenshot" was taken directly off this site http://www.sss.gov/default.htm , and we're all seen it and took screen-shots of it

 

Still not one fact.

 

What fact?

Let me enlighten you too JEFF (although I don't see any public benefit of doing so) - soon as there's going to be one proven fact, your benefactor will become a thing of the past. As it stands today and with the help of dedicated Obamabots, he seems to have won the battle - not guilty until proven, right?

 

Do you have one?

I mean, you won't take the word of the SSA, the IRS, the Hawaii DOH, several other Hawaiian and federal officials, the federal courts, and Obama's sworn opponents.

Why should we take your word that you saw a website and saw screen shots of it?

 

LoL, I did not only seen screenshot, I took one off SSS site. And don't use word "we", Counselor - no-one else but you is asking to see the screenshot, for everyone has already seen it, and have enough sense not to argue it was ever there.

Amazing...

 

Oh but there are many proven facts- just not one from our Pirate friend, or any other Birthers.

It is a proven fact that President Obama was born in Hawaii.
It is a proven fact that he was elected President, confirmed by Congress and sworn in according to the Constitution.
It is a proven fact that he is currently our President.
And it is a fact that no Birther has provided any evidence to the contrary.

No I know you pretend to believe that some fact may emerge that will prove otherwise, but I don't believe your position at all. Your position is simply anti-Obama and you just enjoy the birther idiocy.

Yes, in the world of the rest of us, innocent until proven guilty.

In the Birther world, guilty until proven innocent.

 

No surely you do. You seem to have run away from your claim in the other thread, but since you are still posting in this one, lets revisit your claim

Quote:
Originally Posted by jollyroger88805
On the same day 4-27 When Obama released the purported long-form certificate, officials in the Hawaii Department of Health and governor’s office refused to simply confirm that the image being presented by Obama was an accurate representation of the records maintained by the state..
Hmmm did the BC released by the Hawaii Dept of Health get changed by Obama's attorney on the flight back? Was that the reason they then refused to comfirm WHAT WAS SHOWN BY OBAMA?.

Refused to confirm to whom? Some internet blogger? Who asked and who refused? Really one of the rather sillier and inane Birther claims.

Why?

Because you are claiming that Hawaii refused to confirm it on April 27- of course, Hawaii has posted a press release- dated April 27, 2011, which clearly and absolutely confirmed that a) Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and that b) the birth certificate he produced was what was provided him by Hawaii.

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-recor...ate_042711.pdf

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: April 27, 2011

HAWAI‘I HEALTH DEPARTMENT GRANTS PRESIDENT OBAMA’S REQUEST FOR CERTIFIED COPIES OF ‘LONG FORM’ BIRTH CERTIFICATE

HONOLULU – The Hawai„i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.
“We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai„i,” Hawai„i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai„i.”On April 22, 2011, President Obama sent a letter to Director Fuddy, requesting two certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth. Also on that day, Judith Corley, the President‟s personal attorney, made the same request in writing on behalf of the President. (Letters from President Obama and Ms. Corley are attached).
On April 25, 2011, pursuant to President Obama‟s request, Director Fuddy personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies. Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the copies.
President Obama authorized Ms. Corley to pick up the documents. On April 25, 2011, Ms. Corley appeared in person at the Hawai„i State Department of Health building in Honolulu, paid the requisite fee, and was given the two certified copies, a response letter from Director Fuddy to President Obama, and a receipt for payment. (Letter from Director Fuddy is attached).
-MORE-
In June 2008, President Obama released his Certification of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “short form” birth certificate. Both documents are legally sufficient evidence of birth in the State of Hawai„i, and both provide the same fundamental information: President Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawai„i at 7:24 p.m. on August 4, 1961, to mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Hussein Obama.In 2001, the Hawai„i State Department of Health began computer-generating vital statistics records. Since then, its longstanding policy and practice has been to issue and provide only the computer-generated Certifications of Live Birth, and to not produce photocopies of actual records to fulfill requests for certified copies of certificates.
Director Fuddy made an exception for President Obama by issuing copies of the original birth certificate. The departmental policy to issue only computer-generated Certifications of Live Birth remains in effect for all birth records that have been computerized. Director Fuddy, in her capacity as Health Director, has the legal authority to approve the process by which copies of birth records are made.
“The exception made in this case to provide President Obama with a copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth was done according to the letter of the law,” Attorney General David Louie said. “Director Fuddy exercised her legal authority in a completely appropriate manner in this unique circumstance. We will continue to maintain the strict confidentiality requirements afforded to vital statistics records, such as birth certificates. These requirements help protect the integrity of the records, and keep us all safe from crimes, such as identity theft.”
Governor Neil Abercrombie stated: “Considering all of the investigations that have been done and the information that has been provided, no rational person can question the President‟s citizenship. We have found a way – once again – to confirm what we already knew: the President was born here in Hawai„i. State officials of both parties have verified that President Obama‟s birth records show that he was born in Honolulu.“President Obama‟s mother and father were dear friends of mine, and we must respect their memory. It is an insult to the President, his parents and to the Office to suggest that he was not born in Hawai„i. The State of Hawai„i has done everything within our legal ability to disabuse these conspiracy theorists. We granted the President‟s request for certified copies of his birth certificate so we can all move on from this unfortunate distraction and focus on the real issues affecting people today.”

Also from the Department of Health's website:
"On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth."

 

whoopsie daisy... my bad... i thought this thread was censored, or closed, or just miscellaneous... faux pas...

 

Bull I'll make it real simple for you. You don't seem to understand logical explanations.
So here it is short and aweet. Nothing you try to pin as a postion I take is correct. Obama is ineliegible because he is not a natural born citizen. HE DOES NOT HAVE 2 CITIZEN PARENTS AS REQUIRED BY THE CONSTITUTION AND SUPPORTED BY 3 SUPREME COURT RULINGS.