Obama Won't Listen To Intel. Agents - So Who Advises Him?

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Donor

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    According to the investigative reporter Robert Parry as well as Donald Trump when he was briefed, Obama won't listen to the Intelligence Agents, so whose advice is he following... George Soros and the neo cons or the voices in his head?

    According to the agents, the US policy makers want a more alarmist report about Russia but they refuse to lie since it would not be factual... so in consequence Obama ignores the analysts for not taking a more hypocritical war mongering stance.... something which could cost tax payers trillions and also lead to a nuclear war.

    The analyst Parry knows said Putin has helped them on many issues such as Assad surrendering Syria's chemical weapons and convincing Iran to accept tight limits on its nuclear program. He also said if it had not been for Putin, crazy Netanyahu might have used nuclear weapons against Iran and thrown the Middle East into a turmoil.



    Also, in the wake of the two British government reports undermining the propaganda that was used to justify “regime change” in Iraq and Libya, the blow to Western “credibility” if there were similar admissions about falsehoods regarding Syria and Russia could be devastating.

    U.S. intelligence analysts also might have had to incorporate their assessments regarding whether Syrian rebels – not Assad’s military – deployed sarin gas outside Damascus on Aug. 21, 2013, and whether an element of the Ukrainian military – not ethnic Russian rebels – shot down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over eastern Ukraine on July 17, 2014.

    Those two propaganda themes blaming Syria and Russia, respectively, were promoted heavily by mainstream Western media and various Internet-based information warriors. The two themes have been central to the Western-backed “regime change” project in Syria and to the new Cold War with Russia. If U.S. intelligence analysts knocked down those themes in an National Intelligence Estimate, valuable propaganda assets would be exposed and discredited.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2016/09/14/getting-fooled-on-iraq-libya-now-russia/
     
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    Intelligence agents don't give policy advice. Trump's supposed psychic conversation with these officials have already been thoroughly debunked.
     
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    Soros.
     
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    Soros,Frank Marshall Davis,Jeremiah Wright, and Al Sharpton.
     
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    I would not believe Trump if he personally told me that today was Wednesday Sept 14, 2016 so why would any rational person believe Trump,s fantasy about him getting body language secret messages from intelligence briefers. There are only two types of people who believe Trump and they are either fools or very very naive people.

    Or they are named Melania Trump.
     
  6. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not the voices in his head? :roflol:
     
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    Former CIA heads have publicly stated that Trumpnwas FOS on thus topic also.

    - - - Updated - - -

    An investigative reporter is not a former CIA official and CIA retired officials have debunked Trump,s a Trash Talk.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Donor

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    Now with Hillary, it would be Eleanor Roosevelt ...or at least according to Bill.

    If you get on to 1:12, you can hear him yourself.


    [video=youtube;jvIQrYe0Iz4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvIQrYe0Iz4[/video]
     
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    Obama is the most arrogant president I've ever seen
     
  10. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Donor

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    All presidential candidates are given briefings on security matters and policies ...but then again considering your leanings, your ignorance is understandable. :lol:

    The candidates are not allowed to repeat any of the information, but like the investigative reporter Robert Parry, Trump did say that Obama wouldn't take the advice gathered from their intelligence.

    Which reminds me of General Breedlove, whose sanity was being questioned by the German and American Intelligence agents after he reported that thousands of Russian tanks and men were invading Ukraine... which no one else could see of course.

    But it didn't matter, his girl friend Nuland saw them too, and dutifully relayed it to the Senate committee.
     
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    Ok so you have only seen one president !
     
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    1) Multiple intelligence sources so far have corrected Trump and said that intelligence briefings consist of intelligence, not policy advice, so you'll need to correct the "ignorance" of the people you are pretending to speak for.
    2) I don't you even know what my "leanings" are, though the whole "Try to avoid discussion of arguments and make it about partisan politics" fallacy is pretty much par for the course.

    Regarding #1: "We don't comment on policy . . . We don't give policy recommendations, so I am fully confident that they comported themselves with the utmost professionalism and demonstrated their real breadth and depth of intelligence capabilities." - John Brennan. Perhaps you should let the Director of the CIA know that he is ignorant regarding these intelligence briefings :roflol:
     
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    Oh..now, now, Putin seems to trust him..lol..he has a man crush on him..little does Putin know that trumpeter is a Jekyll and Hyde personality and would turn on him in a second...regardless of how well he greases his pockets..
     
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    I'd like to have the 40 seconds I read this thread back....
     
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    I have to laugh here. Right after Robert Parry stated in his article that the Intelligence Agents refuse to lie about Russia, the 'Washington Post' tabloid decided to counteract it by writing: The Intelligence Agency has declared Russia as enemy no. 1 even though they know damn well it's Obama that's saying it and not the agents. :roll:
     
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    LOLOLOL.. Putin kept Israel from bombing Iran?
     
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    Have you contacted the Director of the CIA yet to let him know that you know more about these intelligence briefings than he does?

    "We don't comment on policy . . . We don't give policy recommendations, so I am fully confident that they comported themselves with the utmost professionalism and demonstrated their real breadth and depth of intelligence capabilities." - John Brennan
     
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    What you've just told us is that since you don't believe Trump, no rational person should believe him either.

    The only rational response such post can get from me is

    :wall:
     
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    Obama Won't Listen To Intel. Agents - So Who Advises Him?

    Perhaps the voices in his head? He only listens to himself anyway.
     
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    Intel agents don't advise, they report.
     
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    Jeannette -

    Stop spamming the board.

    You've got three threads on Syria here.

    You could easily post them as responses in the same thread -

    THEY ARE THE SAME TOPIC: Syria

    And you make the constant habit of starting new threads on Syria

    Then - you ignore peoples responses.


    The total number of threads you post is ridiculous.

    Are you attention seeking?

    Do you get paid by the thread?

    Do you have hyperactivity attention disorder?




    Its been piling up for years - you start one Syria thread,

    Abandon it - then start another.

    Its really absurd and tiring. :frown:
     
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    Obama gets his marching orders from the elites. All presidents do these days. We live in an oligarchy. Here, take a listen to real journalism by a Princeton graduate, journalist, and Prof.

    https://youtu.be/MUUb4KL3BsI

    For once you understand what reality is, then everything makes sense, there is a method to the madness.
     
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    Susan Rice....she is his National Security Chief. Even though she has no background in the IC. [​IMG]
     
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    So why is everyone shocked that Obama would follow his "right of center" Democratic ideology? One would think that given the right wing rhetoric of the GOP, tea party and libertarians for the last decade or so, they would be in sync with the President. This is not the first time Obama has endorsed an old right wing mindset/policy that is not conducive to positive results.. but the GOP is still on it's "get Obama" jag. Go figure.
     
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    Syria is important, more so than whether trump says he is hung ok, even with small hands. Or whether MSM lies about trump being a racist, a Nazi nationalist, an isolationist, and so on. How many threads on the lies hurled at trump? I find that absurd and tiring.

    In regards to Syria and assad, those that are connected to reality understand this is in large part about assad's refusal to let that NG pipeline cross his nation, from Qatar. Just as Hillary's murder of Gadafi and turning Libya into a safe have for radicals involved him nationalizing Libya's very high quality oil, and then in the process of creating a gold back Dinar, in concert with Tunisia. And then requiring his oil to be purchased not with petro dollars but gold back dinars. Western rich elites did not want this, and Hillary is their girl, and the rest is history.

    And then we have Putin working with china to create another gold back currency, and of course he is demonized, and turned into the world's biggest enemy. LOL. The real enemy are rich western elites who paid for and got globalization, in their own self interest.

    If you do not understand how the western world works, that rich elites drive gov't foreign policy, you may as well be illiterate.
     

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