Obamacare A Big Lie From The Start...

I may be getting it to and when they add me they won't get the government share for me if they do the Medicaid Expansion later, and if I don't get it I rack up bills and the providers end up writing it off and then pass on the loss to others save hospitals and other institutions get less money now so it hurts more. So not expanding Medicaid when they should have is just hurting the State and those who end up providing me with health care when an emergency.

Oh well, that all can't be helped.

 

Sociailism is the new patriotism?


That's the same criticism directed by unpatriotic right wingers against America's True Hero FDR.



subsidized by the taxpayer


Fortune 500 employees are subsidized by taxpayers as are people in Israel. But, as always, no objection from the delusional right wing fringes.



paid pundit?


Koch has paid you deluded Tea Partyiers plenty to tell lies about ACA.

Expect more to come:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ea22e378-b26e-11e2-bbf2-a6f9e9d79e19&hpid=z11




All of these right wing fairy tales have been proven to be LIES.

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All the more reason to expand upon ACA to make it more inclusive for everyone who needs it.

 

some wouldn't know patriotism if it slapped them in the face. Why shackle yourself to the government?
If I follow your lead, then letting the government control every aspect of your life is a patriots duty?

 

Better to be ''tied'' to the government than to die from lack of health care the way 45,000 Americans did every year due to lack of health care insurance under the Republicans.




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For those who think that go-it-alone is better than Federally assisted medical help look at this tv segment from "60 Minutes". Now imagine if it was your loved ones who were excluded from this type of coverage.



http://www.cbsnews.com/news/affordable-care-for-those-still-uninsured/





ACA = saving American lives every day

 

Dems love being lied to.


1800 NJ Children Lost Their Health Insurance Last Week

Roughly 1,800 New Jersey children had their insurance plans cancelled last week due to Obamacare.

With the flurry of cancellation notices hitting mailboxes across the Garden State, one parent, Bob Miotla, told the NJ.com news of his son's cancellation made him "extremely angry."

"Without having that safety net, if an illness arises, we will probably take him to the ER," said Miotla, who is on Medicare and disabled.

Obamacare's new mandated requirements killed New Jersey's low-cost children's insurance coverage plan, FamilyCare Advantage. The plan, offered by Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Jersey, was designed for children whose parents make too much money to qualify for Medicaid and offered medical, dental, and vision coverage for just $144 a month. The program, which was the first of its kind in the nation, was implemented six years ago and considered a model for others states seeking economical ways to provide quality coverage for kids from working class families.

Yet, since FamilyCare Advantage lacked things like mental health services, Obamacare deemed the children's 1,800 plans illegal and the program shuttered last week.*

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Obamacare remains highly unpopular. The latest Associated Press poll finds that an all-time low 26% of Americans support Obamacare.

http://drudgegae.iavian.net/r?hop=h...are-Cancels-Insurance-Plans-of-1-800-Children

 

so, shackle yourself to a failing cluster(*)(*)(*)(*), I prefer not to and wont.
So, have you bought and paid for your subzsidized theft of other peoples money?
and if ACA is saving lives, provide proof other than Facebook. How many? I need source. If not, you'll be reported for making statements as facts without sources or cites. (punishable eventually by ban)
Are you a paid pundit or not?
and hardly a patriot, maybe a communist, but hardly a patriot....
also see above post......silly notion that government knows best

 

Let me explain this:

1. Poor people ,including myself, and before you get there the most I ever earned was still under the Federal Poverty Line (FPL) working over 40 hours a week self-employed and no one would likely give me a job so I try need health care.

2. Option one you expand Medicaid, I would have some small obligations and the providers get something lets say 45% which is better than nothing at all.

3. Option two what happens now I build up debts, pay nothing since I have nothing to go after and the providers eat the losses.

Either way someone else is paying just in option one I would have some obligations and providers get something how is that better than nothing which is the normal case now.

 

oh, yeah, it "works" for the ticks that bleed everyone else dry! My health problems are NOT your responsibility, and yours are not mine, Period. This is MORE gov't FORCE against individual freedom, and that means that it's irrational and doomed to failure, and I will NEVER pay such a tax. Never.

 

Not the only whopper in there. What about people being able to keep insurance or doctors they liked?

 

so, it is better to hold a gun to one's head and demand they pay for you? Theft under color of law is still theft.

 

One way or another its going to happen, unless the costs of health care get to where I can afford the services out of pocket which isn't going to happen. I do have some health care through the Community Health Centers here but it has major gaps and I have to ration things for costs they would like me to do. If anything bad happens I end up in the hospital and well can't pay the bills that's all.

Medicaid I noted is the better option for very practical reasons I noted some personal responsibility I pay something, the providers get paid some of their costs over zero and hopefully it keeps the costs for everyone else since this is the case lower than if they all have to eat the debt.

 

so it's best that the rest of us pay for you as well as ourselves...that's socialism.I have been a private contractor for may years. I have worked for peanuts as well. But we still managed to keep health insurance for our children and ourselves.
AS it happens, today I still feel that I, alone, am responsible for myself and my family, not the freaking government.
again, theft at gunpoint is still theft.

 

So its better I ,using myself as an example, have $60k in debts roughly with Medicaid applied for but say I don't get it the providers get nothing. That is a simple fact since I have nothing meaningful to go after and its not by law treatable as criminal debt.

In the end you one way or another with others pay for me its just how much it hurts those who provide my care, which is higher without Medicaid.

I don't really care one way or another by the system should.

 

Why make us responsible for your health? Because you say so? thank the Fates you are not the prez......

 

A blood tax of 45,000 dead Americans every year is something these deluded right wing pundits love to see. All the while they call themselves ''pro life''.

 

The 45,000 deaths due to lack of insurance is the biggest lie of all. Congrats on spreading the Dems propaganda. Fortunately nobody buys it but the kool aid drinkers.

 

That is not true at all since surgeons who perform cosmetic procedures require payment up front first before doing the surgery.

 

Yep. People were screwed on many fronts.

 

Pinocchio-care?

 

..while y'all murder millions of babies a year.....bah, take your weak rant to stormfront
So you must be pro-murder

 

Nice self projection there.

Had you troubled yourself to read any of my posts you would have known a long time ago that I am a long standing member of the pro life movement and that Roe was decided by a Republican Supreme Court majority. Thus, it is your party that is the pro death group.

 

nope, you are most certainly NOT correct on your assumption. So how is it you can be anti-abortion, yet leave the rest of us unarmed after birth with so many people looking to kill the rest of us? Cognitive dissonance? Double standard for living?

 

"unarmed"???


Again, yet another example of right wing ignorance.

Had you bothered to read a post I made on the subject a long while ago you would have known I was a member of the NRA.

Once again you engage in self projection through your ''Cognitive dissonance''. You are batting ZERO and are out of my league, kiddo.

 

nice of you to acknowledge you are behind me............

 

As always, you resort to personal attacks and post nothing in the way of valid refutation of what I write. Thanks for conceding defeat.