Of course videos like the following exposing the lies Obama has told Americans supposedly about Obamacare has nothing to do with the facts. Obama is now an undisputed liar. [video]http://videos.nymag.com/video/If-You-Like-Your-Plan-Supercut[/video]
The reality that this plan was poorly planned, poorly implemented, and based upon principles and promises that were false. LMAO and the "blame the right" begins. Un-(*)(*)(*)(*)ing-believable. When Obamacare falls flat on its face, this is now what we can expect. "Well if you would have let us do it our way...". Ignoring the fact that the left threw the republicans out of committee hearings and planning commissions and then went on to pass this atrocity all on their own. You go ahead and try the blame game in years to come. Your progressive movement will be obliterated completely. Give it a go.
Right. In essence, it is time for those who can see the Right-wing BS, to shame those who do not. It really has gone far enough, all this distortion emanating from the Right. People believe the smoke/mirrors (fear mongering). Even so, I think once people begin to benefit in tangible ways from the real healthcare they are about to receive... public opinion will change massively and most will realize that INVESTING in public health is of tremendous value. For now, the Right, Tea Party and associated far-right-wing Republicans has succeeded in devaluing the availability of healthcare; but they will not fool everyone for all time.
It 'began' a LONG TIME AGO, because they do need to be blamed. The Left is not perfect, but their offenses are not exactly those of the Right. That is clear enough.
When it falls flat on it's face, who's going to move to correct the system to make health care a priority? Certainly not conservatives. Maybe about half the democrats at that. But without a plan from conservatives, you guys come off like hecklers at a comedy club. All talk, no game.
Amazing, you'd think this is the first president you've ever followed to point out a lie. Bush was a nice liar too. As was Clinton, the other bush, Reagan, point me to a president that couldn't be caught in a lie. Please. By all means. And who cares if they can't keep their (*)(*)(*)(*)ty old insurance with it's stupid limits? "Man, I LOVED my (*)(*)(*)(*)ty insurance. I can't BELIEVE Obama's gonna make me get a new plan with better coverage. What an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)!" - - - Updated - - - Dude, we pushed for single payer, to get rid of insurance companies completely. Reps wouldn't have it. So we used their own plan instead. Romneycare.
The ACA specifically removes caps, reasons to charge extra for pre-existing illness (and keeps insurance agencies from turning people down for same reason as well), yes, those things right there = better and ACA requires it.
Even Democrats are jumping ship, and for good cause. Gallup | Uninsured Americans Ignoring Heath Exchange Sites Not to mention, people are being forced off of plans that they like, are being forced to buy things that they don't want or need, and something like 90% of the people who enrolled are enrolling in Medicare (Not private insurance plans).
I am no fan of the bushes. Single payer is a terrible idea. You want to really have to lobby congress to get cordage of this of that medicine? Every time they set the price too low have to deal with shortages and waits? You need food. Why not single payer food? You realize it would suck right? Why is medicine different?
Well, I think everyone knows you're anti government for anything except lawsuits. So...yeah...your point has been made by many others, just like mine has.
The biggest differences between the last few real liars, Nixon and Clinton, and Obama is in the effect. Nixon simply lied about a coverup....it hurt no one. Clinton lied about everything but again, it had little effect on anything aside from politics Obama lied about health care and it is having a direct effect on tens of millions...
Amazing. How quaint you left out deliberate misdirection of Bush Jr. to 'link' Al Queda and Saddam Hussein, Bush senior's famous 'No New Taxes' quote and Reagan's same spiel. (*)(*)(*)(*), Reagan claimed the United States was the reason for the fall of Soviet Russia when that couldn't be further from the truth. Those are things that directly affected people too. Selective memory is strong with this one. So I repeat, it's like you just woke up and found out presidents can be full of (*)(*)(*)(*) and their lies can lead to great consequences from getting people killed to provoking distrust in the leader of the country to making us feel like we're awesome for something we didn't even do. Congrats on not really understanding what 'politicking' means. Obama's no different than these other blokes in this arena as far as I'm concerned. He's no better, no worse. He's just a typical president when it comes to lip service.
conservatives do have a plan. reform insurance companies and open up the states so you have more choices where you get your insurance making insurance cheaper and healthcare saving plans. You won't hear about that on the libbie news stations.
Or on conservative news. Because it sounds just like the insurance we JUST HAD. Obviously, many people were happy enough with it...so much so that Obama got elected not once, but twice for his reform promises. AMG!
No he was re elected because everyone wanted free or affordable healthcare. If you like your plan you can keep your plan PERIOD. In both cases that is not what we got. What we got was a scam. If Obama ran today he would not win. I think if Obama ran against a monkey the monkey would win.
I'm still waiting for those people that are like, "Man, these 800 dollar premiums, lifetime cap limit and 10k deductables are friggin' sweet! Especially part of that 300 of that monthly premium is because I broke my leg once in highschool and can't run anymore!" Haven't found that person yet. But I'm still looking. I imagine this person is someone who makes more than 500k a year net. No one else would likely say that's a great deal. Again, you're trying to equate this issue as something really REALLY devastating to EVERYONE when at most, it's an annoyance. Yay. Some people were annoyed. That's life. I'd choose that than invading another country under false pretenses. The ONLY thing you can pull from this line of crap is that Obama's credibility is damaged, but it was tarnished long before this (*)(*)(*)(*). So...yeah, I'm at the 'why do people still give f**ks about this?' stage. Because I certainly cannot fathom why. Obama's lied about helluva lot more serious stuff than this, yet THIS is what people want to magnetize when there's a friggin' gold mine of stuff out there to harp on about. Great job. F'n losers.
Ah, the normal leftist confusion over the nature of lies. To the left simply disagreeing with the left is a lie. The 'no new taxes' pledge was not a lie as the fellow saying it believed it to be true when he did. It was simply a broken promise. You simply spin political disagreement with Reagan into 'lies'. You do the same with GW, the 'Bush lied' lie in which you make daring to act without the lefts permission into a 'lie'... Of the last 40 years, only Nixon, Clinton and Obama spoke, repeatedly and knowingly lies...Of that list of true liars, only Obama's lies have really hurt vast numbers of people.