Obama's Administrative Amnesty for Illegal Aliens!

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  1. Wildjoker5

    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    Yay for having a dictator. Who cares about that checks and balance thing, congress only scrapped the bill, but who cares when the lord Obama, the one that wishes he could be a dictator on more than one occassion, deems that congress is irrelevant.
     
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    Obama's got to help those future democrat voters.
     
  3. Roadvirus

    Roadvirus Well-Known Member

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    Sure...if you like third world ghettos, out of control government and excessive taxes.
     
  4. Surfer Joe

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    That's an ignorant conclusion, Rich.
    In case you haven't noticed, the whole world is in an economic slump and the cons had as much to do with it as anyone else.
    Adopting a myopic view of history in California doesn't alter the reality.
     
  5. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    America is made of immigrants- legal and illegal.
    They have vastly enriched the cultural fabric of the US, regardless of what intolerant and paranoid reactionaries like to think about it.
    They have a net positive effect on our economy as well, regardless of what scapegoating demagoguery right-wingers trot out to scare ignorant people.
     
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    They HAVE to be LEGAL immigrants, and they do enrich the cultural fabric of the US. They do have a net positive effect on our economy. We are not anti-immigrants, we are anti-illegals.

    Without the law of the land, we will all spiral into chaos, and we all lose.
     
  7. The Mello Guy

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    so if we give them amnesty they become legal....whats the problem?
     
  8. Indymom

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    When given the choice to enforce current laws or change the law to make criminal behavior legal....I choose the former. Not to mention the host of other problems that would lead to....have you taken a look at the unemployment rate?
     
  9. RiseAgainst

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    Hey JOE. I am Jesse (nickname, real name is Juan), nice to meet you. I have personal experience with the negative effect illegal immigrants have on America. You have, well, more Democratic voters as a result of them..:fart:
     
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    He should be more like Reagen and just give them amnesty.
     
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    Its not changing the law or even criminal behavior. you don't know a thing about how immigration law works! Immigration violations are not criminal laws or subject to criminal courts. They are a form of administrative law governed by an Executive. agency

    CIS always has discretion to waive immigration violations. Its written into the Immigration code itself. You are making a truly ignorant assertion here.
     
  12. The Mello Guy

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    are you under the impression that LEGAL immgrants dont take american jobs?
     
  13. RiseAgainst

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    You lie!

    Please don't blatantly lie. Thank you.
     
  14. Shangrila

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    Fact is, Obama, having sworn to uphold the law of the land, does not care one lick about our laws, just like the lawbreakers who sneak across the border, and are now rewarded by him and his ilk. How shameful.
    If I ever had even an inkling of respect left for that sorry excuse for a man, its turned now to utter disgust.
     
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    Amnesty should be followed by a "Real " Securing of our Southern Border ,otherwise it's Marxism .
     
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    First, employers should be double and triple checked.
    Second, border security...airtight.
    Thirdly, out with those who are here illegally, with an easier and more productive legal entry, having health checks and criminal background checks for all, just like with all other immigrants.
    Just because we are invaded by masses of people, doesn't mean we must buckle.
    Uphold the law, and you are welcome, now and always. Snub your nose at the law, and reap the consequences.
    What BO and his ilk are really saying is that they are too wimpy to deal with these criminals, but rather thumb their noses are those at our citizens and those who immigrate here legally.
     
  17. Joe Six-pack

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    There are places where the boarder is completely open (no fence or easy to climb), which is a security risk.
     
  18. Rexxon

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    I believe he is stating he would rather have us enforce the existing laws on file instead of trying to change them, In my opinion.

    In my view, Granting amnesty to many illegal immigrants will not solve the problem we have with them.

    The whole reason that we have so many is that employers hire them to work jobs at LESS than minimum wage and without many, if all, of the benefits that legal citizens get.

    So let's just say that the government grants amnesty, and all of these illegals would now be legal. The employer would have to start paying these employees at or above minimum wage, Right? They would have to give the same benefits to them that other employees had already been given, Right? Wouldn't this cost the employer more?

    I think in that situation, The employer would simply lay off the now-legal workers and hire MORE illegals, As it saves them money. It's only logical.

    So the only way I can see granting amnesty is if we seal our borders TIGHT, and impose SEVERE fines and other penalties on an employer that hires illegal immigrants.

    Thank you for your time.
     
  19. sammy

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    Nice, unemployment will also not come down with illegals
    taking jobs and they are also lowering wages.



    Obama policy is always bad news!
     
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    Obama has yet again thrown the American people under the bus. This is the final nail in the coffin for obama. Once Americans really see this,its a sure sign for obamas end.
     
  21. The Mello Guy

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    ?

    was it marxism to take in boatloads of irish....without making sure no more came?
     
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    Marxism did not exist in 1843
     
  23. Surfer Joe

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    Oye Juanito, por lo menos tienes los cojones para decir la verdad.

    Como has admitido, la unica razon por la cual los derechistas odian los inmigrantes ilegales es porque despues no se convierten en republicanos.

    Si la tendencia de los inmigrantes fuera de apoyar a los republicanos, todos ustedes estuvieran parado en la frontera con Mejico cortando huecos en la cerca y ayudando a los inmigrantes a colarse en el pais.
     
  24. Professor Peabody

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    As I said before they had to have committed one or more felonies to work a regular job.
     
  25. RiseAgainst

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    Usted tiene que retroceder a mi amigo. La única razón por apoyar a los demócratas latinos, o la mayoría de los grupos minoritarios para el caso, se debe a que es la parte que está dispuesto a violar la Constitución y darle la espalda a la fundación de este país por un mísero pocos votos. Los demócratas tratan de obtener más poder y control sobre el pueblo. Nos quieren esclavizar al hacernos dependientes del gobierno para todo, una trampa que es fácil caer en el, pero mucho más difícil salir una vez que se enteró de que su filosofía es un fracaso.

    Mi familia llegó a Estados Unidos, porque te hemos entendido lo excepcional que es ... o al menos solía ser. Volvamos a lo que hizo esta gran nación. Vive libre o muere!

    Now, let us speak English because that is the language I prefer, although I come from Mexico I am all American. I only resort to Spanish when talking to my illegal immigrant relatives who don't know a lick of English and the random white person who wants to demonstrate their skills.
     

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