Ohio bill orders doctors to ‘reimplant ectopic pregnancy’ or face 'abortion murder' charges

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  1. Heartburn

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    We only have the one and I've supported it all my working life.
     
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    Basically. Like asking a doctor to regrow a limb of a patient, it’s just not possible. Yet. I’m sure in the future, both ectopic pregnancies and lost limbs will be considered minor medical issues.
     
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    All this while U.S.abortion rates are below pre RoeVsWade levels, when abortion was illegal???
     
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    So then you have no problem with what kind of gun I choose?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    They are ONLY "Pro-LIFE" for fetuses....all others can go rot...



    Well, in this country we don't make toddlers earn a living or expect teens to make good decisions and neither are responsible for their families.......they ARE burdens on Righty taxpayers because they use SCHOOLS and maybe welfare so they can eat...
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    NO, in abortion "Pro-Choice" means exactly that.


    Women have a right to decide for themselves. That's it, that's all....





    DUHUH...NO, Pro-Choice means Pro-Choice....why is that so difficult for you?


    Pro-Choicers don't say all women have to have an abortion....where did you get such a ridiculous idea???




    There is NO flaw in my argument.

    I am discussing Pro-Choice in connection with abortion( which it refers to) NOT every other issue in the world.
     
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    Maternal mortality rates

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    cmqcc.org

    • Each year, 700 to 900 women in the United States die as a result of pregnancy or childbirth-related issues. Another 65,000 nearly die. An American woman is three times more likely to die during the maternal period, a span that includes pregnancy and up to a year post-pregnancy or termination, than a woman in Canada.
    Maternal Death Rate High in the United States
    www.healthline.com/health-news/why-is-maternal-death-rate-so-high-in-us"""""""


    No, it isn't a death sentence but EVERY pregnancy carries a risk of death.







    Here is what women face, WHAT IS "NORMAL":

    Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:




      • exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
      • altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
      • nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
      • heartburn and indigestion
      • constipation
      • weight gain
      • dizziness and light-headedness
      • bloating, swelling, fluid retention
      • hemmorhoids
      • abdominal cramps
      • yeast infections
      • congested, bloody nose
      • acne and mild skin disorders
      • skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
      • mild to severe backache and strain
      • increased headaches
      • difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
      • increased urination and incontinence
      • bleeding gums
      • pica
      • breast pain and discharge
      • swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint paininfection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
        (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
      • extreme pain on delivery
      • hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
      • continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)
    Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:




      • stretch marks (worse in younger women)
      • loose skin
      • permanent weight gain or redistribution
      • abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
      • pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life -- aka prolapsed utuerus, the malady sometimes badly fixed by the transvaginal mesh)
      • changes to breasts
      • increased foot size
      • varicose veins
      • scarring from episiotomy or c-section
      • other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)
      • increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
      • loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
      • higher lifetime risk of developing Altzheimer's
      • newer research indicates microchimeric cells, other bi-directional exchanges of DNA, chromosomes, and other bodily material between fetus and mother (including with "unrelated" gestational surrogates)
    Occasional complications and side effects:




      • complications of episiotomy
      • hyperemesis gravidarum
      • temporary and permanent injury to back
      • severe scarring requiring later surgery
        (especially after additional pregnancies)
      • dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele)
      • pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
      • eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
      • gestational diabetes
      • placenta previa
      • anemia (which can be life-threatening)
      • thrombocytopenic purpura
      • severe cramping
      • embolism (blood clots)
      • medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby)
      • diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles
      • mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
      • serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis)
      • hormonal imbalance
      • ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
      • broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
      • hemorrhage and
      • numerous other complications of delivery
      • refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
      • aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures)
      • severe post-partum depression and psychosis
      • research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors
      • research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy
      • research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease
    Less common (but serious) complications:




      • peripartum cardiomyopathy
      • cardiopulmonary arrest
      • magnesium toxicity
      • severe hypoxemia/acidosis
      • massive embolism
      • increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
      • molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease
        (like a pregnancy-induced cancer)
      • malignant arrhythmia
      • circulatory collapse
      • placental abruption
      • obstetric fistula
    More permanent side effects:








      • future infertility

      • permanent disability

      • death. """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""






    :roflol::roll::roflol::roll::roflol::roflol:

    None of that has to do with women's HEALTH !!????

    What TF!

    Gee, you must have some kinda weird definition of "health"...
     
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    Wish there was truly a common ground between pro life and pro choice. Putting the mothers life in danger is never a great option and that should only be the mother choice to make but terminating a pregnancy has 3 parties involved.
     
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    Off topic
     
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    Then you do NOT have enough to cure this

    upload_2019-11-30_14-17-1.jpeg

    69% are economically disadvantaged
     
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    An abortion in my state in my area of the country cost roughly $500. Economically it would be smarter to use condoms or even get birth control.
     
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    They do as much as they can, but they realise the tipping point of control and freedom, on the opposite end of the spectrum some people want to kill them all through abortion and not really thinking who the are killing..

    The next Michael Jordan?

    The Next Larry bird?

    The next Obama?

    The next Farrah ?

    The next einstein?

    Some people dosen't understand by killing these 50 million children they could of killed the next Newton.


    It's sad the way they think.
     
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    Oh! Dear! Another person who thinks condoms are effective birth control

    Why do you think women are too stupid to not have worked this out?
     
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    Clarify yourself please, so abortion is an effective birth control?
     
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    Or the next Hitler, Adam Lanza, James Holmes, Idi Amin, Robert Mugabe,

    People don’t understand chance happens both ways
     
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    From what I can find only half report using contraceptive. It could of prevented quite a bit of unwanted pregnancies.

    Also they could of practiced abstinence and to day that's not a viable answer several pro-choice advocates went on a sex strike because of the heartbeat bill. So obviously abstinence works.

    I prefer safe sex to no sex. Humans will be humans.
     
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    Twisting my intent does nothing to make ME look an idiot

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    Abortions mostly happen when there is an UNWANTED pregnancy

    Weird how so few have worked out the correlation
     
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    Guilty with out innocence?

    So we kill babys on your suspicion that they are born like Hitler?

    I just puked.
     
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    No, abortion doesn't
     
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    Seven billion people on this planet shows that abstinence DOES NOT WORK

    What DOES work and IS working is education and cheap LARCs

    upload_2019-11-30_14-36-2.png

    You know

    The thing that Planned Parenthood does?

    Ps did you also note how many women were in a stable relationship at the time?
     
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    PP is just acorn in disguise..use another source

    Please and thank you
     
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    I will when you do
     
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    As far as abstinence goes it was never my form of argument until the sex strike.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn.../alyssa-milano-abortion-sex-strike/index.html

    Stabe relationship unknown but 86% were unmarried from what I can find.

    https://abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/
     
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    Its acorn..

    Now post something that's not rigged
     
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