Omicron spreads mostly among vaccinated

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  1. chris155au

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    We're talking about Florida's education system, not California's!
     
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    ~ California does not have an education system. :frown:
     
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    Definitely can't have students use the internet. School officials will have to check students to make sure they don't have cellphones. Someone will have to go through the school library (many schools only have part-time librarians). Existing textbooks will likely run afoul of new laws. What are teachers going to use for learning materials while schools struggle with compliance?

    So, what kind of instructors will we get if we criminalize teaching and continue to pay these salaries...

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    If you don't see then problem without me going further, you'll never understand.
     
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    An utterly absurd, idiotic comment.

    One of the best school districts in the country. World class results.

    https://www.pvpusd.net/
     
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    Much more likely that your incessant questions - don't you have any opinions? - are tiresome.
     
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    So, you don't think having FIVE TIMES fewer deaths than Florida without lockdowns is significant?
    The impact of covid has to be low enough that people won't continue eschewing "places with faces" where many of our businesses deliver services—restaurants, bars, clubs, theaters, hotels, etc. We can't continue massive government spending to keep the economy afloat.

    Our forum rightwing extremists tout Florida and Texas, but what they don't understand is that spending for Texas and Florida products by people in other states, buoyed by federal money, is unsustainable.
     
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    So, one single district?
     
  8. chris155au

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    Whether I think that it's significant or not is irrelevant. Again, I thought that you were presenting BC as an example of where COVID policies have been a success. Clearly you were not.

    Eschewing "places with faces?" What the hell do you mean?

    What the hell is a rightwing EXTREMIST? Someone who carries out mass shootings in a synagogue? What ridiculous language!

    Why is it unsustainable? And what is this federal money that you are talking about?
     
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    Can you support ANY of this? Even one little SHRED of it? It certainly cannot be supported with this link to the bill that you previously posted
    which says nothing about kids not using the internet and making sure that they don't have cellphones: https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/148/BillText/Filed/PDF

    How is this relevant to Florida?
     
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    There are other good school districts in California. Look to where rich people live.
     
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    Read the legislation.

    I put my entire history course online when I was teaching. What do you think dedicated ideologues will do with information they want students to have? There are plenty of online sources.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=critical+race+theory&rlz=1C9BKJA_enCA860CA860&hl=en-US&ei=1Uf4YZzQBLWU0PEPm9S20A8&oq=critical+race+theory&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyBwgAEEcQsAMyBwgAEEcQsAMyBwgAEEcQsAMyBwgAEEcQsAMyBwgAEEcQsAMyBwgAEEcQsAMyBwgAEEcQsAMyBwgAEEcQsAMyBwgAELADEEMyBwgAELADEEMyBwgAELADEEMyDAguEMgDELADEEMYADIMCC4QyAMQsAMQQxgAMgwILhDIAxCwAxBDGABKBQg4EgExSgQIQRgAUABYAGCCCmgBcAF4AIABAIgBAJIBAJgBAMgBDsABAdoBBAgAGAg&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp#crs=q:Critical%20Race%20Theory%20books,stick:H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgfcRYyy3w8sc9YamSSWtOXmPM4xLwyc8vTs2pDErNSSxJTQnJFxLnYnPNK8ksqRTileLm4tTP1TcwSzE3SxZy5OIOTi0JyffNT8lMqxQyEjLg4vRNzU1KLSr2TxNS5uJyzs_JSU0uyczPExKVEuYS1E-GC-gn5ednF_MsYpVyLsosyUxOzFEISkxOVQjJSM0vqlQAywIAT4fHjJ8AAAA,cid:eek:verview&sbfbu=1&pi=critical%20race%20theory

    The law will be a toothless joke if students can access the internet.
    The Florida pay is between the top and bottom ten.
     
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    Five times more people died per capital in Florida. The numbers speak for themselves.

    More than 50,000 Floridians would still be alive if Florida had done as well dealing with covid as British Columbia.
    People avoid places where they might catch covid.
    Quite a few of the Trumpers on this forum.
    Them, too.
    Does it upset you that someone calls out extremists? Seems so.
    Where have you been?
     
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    What are you suggesting should have been done differently - US in general is 3 times higher than Canada .. and lots of old folks living in Florida.... so 5 times higher not a surprize in terms of the US rate of death.

    It is strange that there is a 300% difference in these numbers in general .. suggesting something is wrong with US numbers .. such as counting people dying with covid rather than of covid. Nashville numbers were overstated by 100%.

    If we cut the US death rate in half .. we would be more in line with Canada.
     
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    The Danish study only used 23 Omicron cases, out of which 18 cases were attributed to the fully-vaccinated (78.3%). For Delta, the rate was 36.5% (47,445 out of 130,105 cases). For Alpha, only 717 out of 68,348 cases were attributed to breakthrough infections (1%). Covid-19 vaccines were primarily designed for the Alpha variant from China and Delta/Omicron variants from India and Africa are good at evading Covid-19 vaccines.

    https://files.ssi.dk/covid19/gennem.../gennembrudsinfektion-covid19-uge49-2021-ji88
     
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    Irrelevant to what I'm talking about. Again, I thought that you were presenting BC as an example of where COVID policies have been a success in general, not specifically when compared to Florida. Clearly you were not, as you have said that BC had failed COVID policies. So is there anywhere in North America, or the world, where you think that COVID policies have been a success?

    This doesn't answer the question. Again, where between 0 deaths per million and 480 per million is acceptable?

    So you're putting people on this forum who "tout Florida and Texas" in the same box as someone who carried out a mass shooting in a synagogue?

    Okay, so you are clearly not able to support your claim that "spending for Texas and Florida products by people in other states, buoyed by federal money, is unsustainable."
     
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    Sure .. but no one was vaxed for Alpha .. and Delta was already raging prior to Vax being widely adopted .. by the time folks had two doses Omicron was already taking over.

    Not that it matters for India/Africa as very few were vaxed when Alpha/Delta went through .. and not many in Africa when Omicron went through .. with far better outcome than in the US ... presumably due to treatment .. which was smart.. very smart. The Medical Establishment in North America is woefully ignorant of environmental microbiology -- taking care of one's soldiers who will have to fight in the second war when the immune system is taken offline.. the war that kills 9 out of 10 who die from Covid .. but hey .. why treat for that ..
     
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    Lots of old folks live in British Columbia, too, because it's the warmest part of Canada.
    Canada was pretty good at testing before Omicron, suggesting this country's policies and attitudes resulted in more cases and more deaths.
    We need to cut it by more than three times...

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    No such suggestion was made.
    Of course, I can defend it. I discussed the problem in many posts.
     
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    I use Canada's data for some calculations as well .. much better and more accessible than US data.

    Agreed need to cut more than 3 times - US death rate is around 2600 / million vs India 360/ million. In India if you got covid you got a treatment kit which saved many lives - reduced hospitalizations - severe illness (ICU)

    In USA -- you got squat. in fact the Biden -Fauci clownshow demonizing treatment. Just absurd.
     
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    Not that I'm a Fauci fan, but what is being demonized?

    Fauci said don't get a mask. I bought my supplies...

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    3M 6503QL Quick Latch Half Facepiece Reusable Respirator P100 filters

    Fauci knew quality respirators would save lives. He flat lied, I don't trust him.
     
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    I have not seen one individual wearing a mask like that
     
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    They're inexpensive and very effective.
     
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    God! You are so right about this James. THIS IS NOT A NATURAL VIRUS !!! We don't know what it will do.
     
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    ...................................................... Life will never be better when YOU have to get a Brain Scan to visit Grandma
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    ............................. Do y0u wear it while driving alone - As Recommended ? :mrgreen:
    I'm sure Klaus will be as PROUD of YOU as he is of his many Shills
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    My Advice
    These masks work a lot Better - They are a little more Expensive, but they carry
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    Treatment is being demonized .. Masks are a different deal. Masks can be effective if used in conjunction with a "hard" lockdown .. Australia turned out to be smart in hindsight - they are still going to get "Covid" .. but the weaker versions having avoided the nasty earlier ones.

    Two wars war 1) immune system .. which is being attacked by the virus - the vax can help immune compromized fight the virus.

    War 2) The war that will kill you 9 times out of 10 .. good bacteria vs bad bacteria aka pneumonia. The vax is useful for War 1 but does nothing for war 2 other than resore air cover a bit quicker for the immune compromized.

    Your bacteria - 9 bacterial cells for every 1 human cell - your "Biome" are constantly fighting the bad bugs - throughout your life. If you don't get killed by a meteor, cancer, ex wife -- you will die a "Natural death" = the bad bugs eventually win the war and you die from pneumonia.

    Your biome is in a symbiotic relationship with your immune system .. helping your troops to fight of the bad bugs .. when immune system weakend by a virus .. bad bugs get a foofhold .. and the war begins .. hopefully the bad bugs have not wiped out the good ones by the time air cover comes back .. as your already dead.

    Moral of story -- very important to treat for pneumonia - which is a bacterial infestation - aka - a parasitic infection.

    Arms for the good bugs .. vitimin C, D (various elixers which contribute) .. biocides for the bad bugs .. honey ceyanne pepper .. in the "Old country" they would wrap a rag soaked in moonshine around the kid .. "Excellent Idea" .. aroma therapy .. reigning a nasty toxin down on the bad guys .. and/or changing the environment.

    If things get more serious -- standard treatment - has been for decades -- anti-biotics .. aka dropping the nuclear bomb .. which hopefully takes out the bad guys but takes out some good guys too . and why not Ivermectin .. seems to work very well . anti parasitic - anti inflamatory .. and no nasty side effects. The new Phizer drug "ivermectin 2" should be effective .. at hundreds of times the cost mind you .. gotta have the right label on the bottle.
     

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