Only a Palestinian State ensures Israel's survival

we know that many of the settlements were built on land stolen from Arabs.

 

And I showed you that a lot of them (Gosh Etzion for exemple gathered among it alot of Jewish villages) are built on Jewish land. And you inform me that you know that, and still you are continue to ignoring it.

 

possibly 2% of the West Bank is miniscule, if not irrelevent.


but fine, let Israel keep 2% of the West Bank, and the Palestinians get 98%

 

For anyone who might like to have a look at them here are the PIJ papers done for the EU on

settlements and the two state solution

http://pij.org/policypapers/settlements_pijpaper.pdf

Gaza and the two state solution

http://pij.org/policypapers/gaza_pijpaper.pdf

and Refugees

http://pij.org/policypapers/refugee_pijpaper.pdf

I appreciate that the settlements one in particular has possibly moved on to the time where they speak of, when if they are not dealt with a one state solution is the only possibility and unfortunately things have moved in the opposite direction to what they advise but they are interesting and do give a lot of good ideas. The Refugee one may be particularly interesting to some people as that is the last excuse people usually come up with as to why a solution is not possible.

In addition I have been surprised recently when two Israeli's have with glee told me that Abbas's security people will be going to Gaza. I am still getting my way through this paper but I am now realising that far from them being there to protect the people of Gaza and look after their needs they are, according to this paper there to serve Israel and the US.

http://jfjfp.com/?p=65523

 

screw the two-state solution.

Israel should annex the West Bank and offer citizenship to all Palestinians.

 

Dont know why they dont just let the Israeli's have it all. What point is having a tiny strip of land in Gaza for Arabs or even West Bank. Palestinians can live in Egypt and every body is happy.

 

She won't though and Gaza has to be included and the refugee situation needs to be addressed.

 

no, let Hamas have Gaza.

 

They really will have to be included. Otherwise it is just leaving the people virtually to die and I don't think the population of the West Bank would have it.

I put this up during the Gaza war. It is how one young woman experiences things. 'Am I Not Human Too?'

 

The Arabs dont have 98% from the West Bank! II've already showed you that!
Here it is once again:

 

Egypt is very poor an illiterate...and their culture is not the same as Palestinians. There are no jobs. That's not a solution.. Its just another dump on the Palestinians to pay for the Holocaust.

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Its a take off on Merchant of Venice... Do we not bleed when you prick us?

 

YESHA is a criminal organization made up of religious extremists and nationalist pigs.

 

Indeed. A Jewish author at 972 did an article on that a few months ago. What happened she wondered. It is now the Palestinians. I went to her twitter account and found this link 5 hours ago.

http://almostcelestial.blog.com/2014/10/23/diary-of-a-war-survivor/

 

is there any hope for Egypt in the future or are they doomed too?

 

Oh I am not a prophet, but after 42 years of sliding backwards plus runaway government corruption, I'd say Egypt is in for a long hard road.

 

The Jews and Palestinians are destined to live in the same state

 

Egypt has been a legitimate powerhouse and arguably a super power for the last 6,000 years. It is only within the last 200 years or so it has really began to take aserious turn for the worst. Could this be due in part to the formation of Israel in 1948?

 

i used to think Israel needed Palestine to exist.

now i see that Israel and Palestine will be one state.

the Jews and Muslims seem to deserve each other

 

I agree, permanent war.

 

don't respond to my posts.

 

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Gaza was put under severe blockade as a punishment for not following the American version of democracy. We were subjected to systematic starvation which led to one of the worst human tragedies in the 21st century. Ultimate deprivation of the most basic needs has resulted in the most miserable life even for a barn animal.

I was only 17 and I didn’t even elect Hamas so why do I have to suffer? Even those who did elect Hamas, why do they have to be punished for merely practicing their free will?

Blaming resistance for fighting back is like blaming the result and ignoring the cause. Israeli occupation was formed as early as 1918 whereas Fatah as a resistance movement was formed in 1965 and Hamas was formed later in 1987. Anyone with straight logic and basic common sense will easily spot the problem which led to all this destruction

 

It's an open forum I can respond to propaganda if I so please. Please refrain from dictating to forum members and alert a moderator instead. Thanks

 

I think the formation of Israel is a separate issue...............

 

with all due respect, Jews have lived in Palestine/Canaan/Israel for the last 3,000 years.

their numbers have gone up an down, but there has never, not once, been a time when Jews didn't number in the thousands in this land.

and for folks to call the immigrant Jews after 1918 "occupiers", is disgusting.

they legally bought land. they tilled the soil and built communities.

they joined thousands of Jews that already lived in the Yishuv from during Ottoman times.

Jews have been the majority in Jerusalem since the 1880s, and had large communities in the Galilee.

 

They border each other and the relation between the two nations is the most critical from the beginning of the times until the present. Personally it's my option that this issue is overlooked.
"When Israel was a child, I loved him, and out of Egypt I called my son"

Also I think Israelis know what they are doing in terms of biblical prophecy, they no doubt have some educated scholars