Open carry

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by politicalcenter, Feb 4, 2022.

  1. Pixie

    Pixie Well-Known Member

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    Please stop swerving.
    I think we all understand enough of paranoia to know that it defined those who think there are some "out there" who want to attack them
    The very reason gun carriers give to justify their accessory, while also saying they never use it.
     
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    So there's no one out there that attacks people? Why do we need more gun control? Are gun control advocates paranoid?
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please don't use the term we, because it is clear you do not understand the meaning of being prepared, versus being paranoid.

    Paranoid is irrational, being prepared is mitigating risk to live ones life normally.

    That's false and you know or should know it.
     
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    If you succeed, they'll be carrying openly in no time.

    NW 6th aka Sistruk runs right through Dorsey and into Washington Park, which is where 6th and 27th is, and it is the same deal, - same as Dorsey. You want them to carry openly.....what could possibly go wrong.
     
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    Nope, they way open carry will work is one must have OCL to carry openly, few if any of those folks would make it past the background check.

    Incorrect, once you get West of NW 7ave you are back in the hood until you get to NW 27 then it cleans up a little until NW 31 and then it becomes mostly Caribbean.

    Anyhow I guess you don't know the history of that wall do you?

    Nothing, FL's CCL holders are some of the most law abiding people in the US and I doubt those who apply for a OCL will be any less law abiding.

    And you seem to still fail to understand why open carry is so important to CCL holders, you claim you have a CCL and I find it strange you fail to understand why that is, for if you did I believe you would be 100% behind open carry..
     
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    There are plenty who can, and are cops going to stop everyone carrying openly and demand papers? Is that the way it's going to work

    Dorsey Riverbend and Washington Park are mostly between the 7th and 27th ave between Broward and Sunrise. It gets better the other way, - East of 7th which is where downtown begins after railway tracks.
     
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    Lets try some common sense, street thugs are not going to carry openly, they prefer to carry concealed.

    That leaves the only people carrying openly are those who are allowed to.

    You get it?

    Still ducking the CCL question aren't you?
     
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    Quite a few BLM / Antifa carried openly in States where its allowed and I am sure it warmed the cockles of your heart.

    Those thugs without a record will carry openly.

    I don't think YOU get it. If a cop doesn't like your looks they'll stop you and demand papers because they see you sporting a gun on your hip. That's one more reason to NOT carry openly.

    What question?
     
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    That's funny, but I don't think so. They see freedom is too much of a liability. When you're free you're not under control.

    They view the government as Daddy because most of them didn't have a father.

    Freedom also requires responsibility you are responsible for your actions if you're free to engage in them and this is also something that these people don't like. That's why the victim narrative appeals to them so much because it's not their fault whatever is wrong in their life that's some arbitrary Boogeyman.
     
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    you tried to diagnose someone as paranoid. Paranoid is a clinical term.

    When you insist other people are mentally defective because they don't agree with you you need to come with a little more than trying to blame me for holding your feet to the fire.


    I know a lot more gun owners and people who carry guns than you do and I've never met a single person that believes there's someone out there to get them.

    So I don't trust your evaluation because it's not based on critical objective analysis. If it was you could present it the fact that you don't mean that it's not.

    When you spout off ignorantly about things of which you have no understanding it only hurts you.


    now I suspect you are lying
    I've never seen anyone who once gave the reason you posted. It comes off as though you're dishonestly twisting things to fit your opinion.

    If that's not your intent I would gladly hear some rationale to help clear it up.
     
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    You can knock off the personal judgements, you don't know anything about me.
     
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    As you clearly understand responsibility scares the crap out of too many people, they prefer to hide behind their mommy governments skirt hoping mommy will protect them from harm and hurt.
     
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    Typical for anti-gunners.
     
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    It scares them way more than freedom. They would would elect Adolf Hitler to protect them from freedom that's how people like that come to power.

    Freedom means responsibility. And I have to see this about my generation (millennials) they are in denial of being adults because they don't want the responsibility of their freedom.
     
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    Well it's really anybody that holds the position and doesn't really understand why.

    They know that the people that disagree with them are wrong because they disagree with them. They don't care about determining whether or not they're right.
     
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    I know you want people to carry openly.
     
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    Then you had better have a chat with some members here who justify carrying a gun as protection from "bad guys".
    And do stop being so precious about paranoid. When someone says they are worried about those unknown dangers thinking there might be someone out there who might do them harm, enough to tool up, that is paranoia.
    So let's go down your route.
    If you don't think someone may be a danger and your daily experience is perfectly safe, why do you carry a gun?
     
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    Powerless against what?
    I am told there is no danger so what are you powerless against?
     
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    I don't believe anyone here has claimed that their daily experience is perfectly safe except the person creating a straw man with an agenda to push.

    There's nothing paranoid about realizing that there may be situations in life that will cause you to defend yourself and it just so happens a gun makes a great tool to do that.
     
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    Why don't you go take that up with the person who claimed that there's no danger?

    Just today I engaged in risky behavior fraut with risk. I climbed up a ladder and threw a rope over the crock of a limb to hook a big steel chain to a large oak tree my friend was cutting, now the other end of this large steel chain was connected to the bumper of a truck. When he cut the tree and other buddy inside the truck hit the gas.


    Now I got the hell out of the way because I know what a chain can do when it snaps under tension but I guess that was just me being paranoid.

    This thing called life is filled with potential risk.
    I wrote a bicycle today on a public road that's always a risky activity but I wasn't paranoid enough to not do it
     
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    So what level does crime have to reach before you would not feel safe?
     
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    Who that's not paranoia?

    stop misusing the word.
    Nobody I've said that. They are concerned about known dangers.
    No it isn't it's perfectly rational. In fact it even happens that some people harm others. Have you ever heard of criminals before?
    Somebody very well may be. Show me that no crimes against people ever happen then I'll agree it's paranoid.
     
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    Tell me how many times in the past year a citizen has used the gun in his belt to protect himself against a bad guy who just happened to be being bad at that time.

    Nor am I going to wade back into this thread to find posts from those who tell me that there are very few such people.

    Now either they are to be found in sufficient numbers to make it impossible for the police to do their job and protect the public so Joe Public has to help them, or there aren't that any and Joe Public doesn't need to help the police.
    In the first instance, you need to do something about the standard of your policing.
    In the second you are merely trying to look authoritative and tough, mixed in with some amount of "it's my right" thing...to which I reply "you have many rights. Black people have rights but you disapprove of their asserting them by declaring them openly to object to a white cop killing a black man without due process"...
    Why can you openly display your rights when you disapprove of black people displaying their rights?

    Either the USA is full of imminent danger around every supermarket aisle or not. If not, then the gun becomes a fashion accessory.
     
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    Moot question.
    Far too many variables.
     

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