Opinion: What to do with Dreamers?

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  1. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    Who knows? Whatever it is, no matter how many. The overweight Mexicans and all the overweight Trump base. Trump is in process of closing the borders w/o a wall and we will have control of any new admittees. Those who have lived here for many years should stay
    and the criminals weeded out.
     
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    You have it backwards

    The DACA amnesty did not belong in the budget bill

    Which schumer has admitted as he caved in to trump in the past hour

    Noe democratics will vote for the budget and fight over DACA in a few weeks
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what you are saying is we should kick them all out of the country. Not going to happen.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We need someone to sweep the floor and work the orchards :)

    Yes they are !. They are being sold the lie that these people have done something illegal . .yet they have not.

    Rule of Law (One person is not to be made responsible for the actions of another)
     
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  5. APACHERAT

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    Show me just one illegal alien who hasn't committed numerous crimes after crossing the border ?

    If I were to use someone else social security number to get a job that's a felony and identity theft and I would have been sent to prison.

    Why aren't illegal aliens ever prosecuted and sent to prison for identity theft like American citizens ?
     
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    Its why my personal position has aways been zero tolerance

    Deport them all

    But realistically some or perhaps many criminals will get to stay

    Which really sucks because it hurts America
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We already have H2A visas to cover the agricultural workers.

    When was the last time you heard of ICE raiding a farm ??? It's been awhile.

    H2A visa holders use the visa to get them across the border then go AWOL and decide to stand in front of Home Depots instead.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ICE should be raiding the farms as these are fertile grounds. The fact that they are not raiding the farms is another violation of the rule of law (equal Justice under the law).
     
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    To be fare, lets level the playing field and allow every American to pick one crime to commit and not be prosecuted. Wouldn't that be fare ?

    Why do Democrats give illegal aliens special protections from being prosecuted for all of the crimes they have committed while American citizens are prosecuted and sent to prison for committing the same crimes ?
     
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    I hope you don't vote. If you can't pass the citizenship test we require for immigrants, you must have slept during civics/American government in junior high and high school. The test isn't hard. It's just basic knowledge of how the U.S. government works.

    Here's an example:
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/us/us-citizenship-quiz-trnd/index.html
     
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    I suspect most liberals would pick a sex crime or a drug offense
     
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    I disagree with the quota. My basic view is that they need a working knowledge of English, need to have gotten a high school diploma/GED or if under 18, working on them, have no criminal background other than misdemeanor traffic tickets. I don't think they should have instant citizenship, but should get green card status, and after 5 years can apply for citizenship (with all of it's requirements, including English language, the citizenship test, etc.).
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:You're probably right on that one.

    Have you ever gave it any thought what crime you would pick to commit and not be prosecuted for ?
     
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    The average age of the dreamers is 26 years. What to do about them? Simple, give them a green card and move on.
     
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    No

    Thats a new twist for me

    Nor would I speculate on a public forum like this because there are plenty of swamp rats who follow these places
     
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    And no path to citizenship
     
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    How many times has America been lied to by awarding amnesty first then the border would be secured and the fence (wall) would be built ?

    We are looking at amnesty #8 right now, the DACA amnesty.

    If the Democrats and the illegal alien dreamers get their amnesty you can expect another 2 million illegal aliens crossing the border demanding amnesty # 9.

    It's what has happened after every amnesty since 1986.

    Build the wall and secure our borders fist then take on what to do with the illegal aliens who are already here.
     
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    A green card has a path to citizenship. One puts in the years, keeps a clean nose and passes the civics test and one becomes a citizen. Personally I think we should give immediate citizenship to any immigrant - legal or otherwise - who joins the U.S. Military, completes the commitment and leaves with an honorable discharge or re-enlists. Someone who does that deserves citizenship.
     
  19. APACHERAT

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    How much do you think that's going to cost the taxpayers ?

    A whole lot of free stuff out there when you have a green card.
     
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    Gee, I guess they are all guilty of criminal activity, yes? Another brilliant statement by the uninformed Trump base.
     
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    We can easily create a special green card for DACAs

    But I think that horse has left the barn for me

    The DACAs will get a path to citizenship in spite my wish

    What matters now is that we get enough in return

    Which I’m hopeful we will
     
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    Horsedidlysquat. Typical ignorant and uninformed Trump base remark.
     
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    And Pelosi, Schumer and liberals call these 26 year olds children.

    Only .5% (1/2 of 1 %) of the dreamers are actually under 16 years of age and can be called children.

    But the low informed Americans eat up the Democrats lies that the illegal alien dreamers are children when 99.5% aren't children.

    35% of the illegal alien dreamers who have temporary DACA protection are between the ages of 26 to 36 years of age.

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    Yeah and then get the prison population to work as slave labor to put food on american tables! What a great idea.
     
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    I have never needed to learn how to expunge a criminal record

    but I bet liberal ambulance chasers know how to do it
     

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