Other than putting holes in paper, or slaughtering innocents, what purpose can an AR15 serve?

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  1. Vet1966

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    They (AR 15) are very dangerous to use for home defense, as the bullets lose little thru walls.

    Either you, or whomever you're quoting doesn't know what they're talking about or are telling a whopping assed big lie!

    Have you ever fired a pistol or a shotgun or a rifle or a carbine like the AR 15.

    First off, pistols and shotguns carry quite a kick - the recoil from a large pistol could break someones wrist and the shotgun could break a clavicle or seriously bruise a shoulder. The AR 15 has a strong, but not powerful recoil. Anyone could handle an AR 15 and keep it on target.

    Next is penetrating power. A handgun bullet or shotgun pellet will go through people and walls like butter. The new .223 ammo is built to disintegrate into pieces on contact. It won't go through a person and then a wall, or if there's a miss, it won't go through a wall. Look at Winchester’s new .223 PDX1.

    Finally is all around ease of handling - if needed, my 4'11" wife could handle an AR 15

    I've heard all of the pro and con arguments, hand gun vs shotgun vs rifle or carbine and in my opinion, when it comes to all around ease and understanding of handling, safety, accracy and stopping power, I'll go with the AR 15 for home defense
     
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    i have a gun because its none of your business. If you dont like that answer, it is simply too bad for you now isnt it. Dont like guns?......I hear Australia is nice. If not there is nothing you can do about guns in America except try and take them by force. What do you think the outcome of that would be?
     
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    The only solution the gun control wackos have is to ban stuff because they hate freedom, liberty and individual rights.

    Hell no to the gun banners!
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Do you have a reading comprehension problem?

    How did you go from "need" to "want"?

    "need" and "want" are two totally different things.
     
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    You will lose this argument until you get over your need to attack those who disagree with you and slander them with assertions of
    "hate freedom, liberty, and individual rights." So think about it. You assert that I hate individual rights. What do you think my position is on abortion? I'm pretty sure yours is that you hate that individual right and would ban it.

    See how asinine your rant is?
     
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    What about the damn fricking rights, liberties, and freedoms of the unborn????

    Abortion is murder.
     
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    They are really scary looking, aren't they? :hiding:

    People have been VERY lucky that crazies now believe the .223 AR15 is the ultimate killing firearm. Had the Las Vegas shooter, Pulse nightclub shooter or any of the other incidents been using a bland looking, wood stock Springfield M1A .308, the high wound rate instead would have been a vastly higher kill rate - over twice the energy and in a tight crowd with black tip ammo 1 round could kill 2 or 3 people per shot. Worse, could have used a big truck or bomb. The Vegas shooter could have killed thousands with his pilot's license and a rented aircraft.
     
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    Setting aside there are a billion high capacity magazines out there already, nearly any fool could convert any magazine to higher capacity with simple materials and no machining or complex tools. Some thin sheet metal, hammer to bent it over a board, tin snips, a spring, and duct tape would do it. Or could get REALLY technical and used a soldering iron.
     
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    This question has been answered numerous times, and yet you still don't get it?

    The second amendment is not merely about home defense. In fact, it has nothing to do with it at all. It is to keep our federal government from becoming tyrannical. The fact that you still don't get this, despite being told this so many times makes me wonder what's going on. Are you trolling us?
     
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    3-D printing, too.
     
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    ROFLMAO
     
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    Personally I don't care for AR15s. I prefer to a rifle that throws a bigger shell, though a bullpup with a 42 rd in 5.56 is no slouch. Look up the velocity and energy of a 30.06 or .308 and compare it to a .223 sometime and you'd understand my point.

    Even a 100+ year old Winchester model 94 30-30 carries more kill energy for at least the first hundred yards or so than a .223. Ever see the old TV show "the Rifle Man?" 15 .44 caliber rounds. 120 years ago. "The gun that won the west." Those are really scary too, huh?
     
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    When the officer comes to take possession of your AR-15, we will let you explain it to him. lol
     
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    It might stop an illegal entry of my home by anyone.
     
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    See? It's all in about the sanctioned positions of the right, -not individual rights.

    BTW, the "unborn" are not "individuals" or "babies". Check definitions. And if they are not individuals or babies, aborting them at 15 weeks is no different than removing an appendix, except that removing an appendix presents greater risks.
     
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    <Rule 2/3>

    Science (biology) tells us that the Human life cycle starts at conception...
    http://www.biologyreference.com/La-Ma/Life-Cycle-Human.html
     
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    What? You find the 2nd Amendment funny?
     
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    What I find funny is thinking that a bunch of cowboys are going to overthrow the U.S.government. What I find even more humorous is you thinking we will ever need to do so.
     
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    ho-hum... another lefty who knows absolutely nothing about history.

    Assuming you know why we have the second amendment, and that you believe that "a bunch of cowboys" can't overthrow the U.S. government, what do you suggest we do?

    Give up?
     
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    Go get um there Sparky!
     
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    Shows how little you know about frangible ammo.
     
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    Yes, we will explain about the unfortunate boating accident where all our guns fell overboard. :)
     
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    Yours or mine?
     
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    Considering the lefts love affair with abortions, their newborns often appear to have been handed a hand grenade.
     
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    No problem. Ill be very good at making my point.
     
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