Outrage Grows Over Stephen Bannon, as Donald Trump Reaches Out to the World

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  1. Dispondent

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    This is actually getting hilarious! Haven't liberals learned anything? There was outrage and whining about Trump all through the primaries and general election, none of it mattered and he still won. All this whining and outrage now isn't going to matter either. If liberals don't figure it out, they literally will be ignored and irrelevant for decades to come. Continuation of the sky is falling narrative is going to be even more hilarious when something important does come along and liberals are too impotent to drum up righteous fury to stop it.
     
  2. Space_Time

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    Here's more:

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/steve-bannon-on-politics-as-war-1479513161

    Steve Bannon on Politics as War
    The Trump adviser talks about the winning campaign and says the political attacks against him and Breitbart News are ‘just nonsense.’
    By KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL
    Nov. 18, 2016 6:52 p.m. ET
    688 COMMENTS
    ENLARGE
    It’s hard to think of Steve Bannon as a low-profile guy. He has garnered about as many headlines over the past week as Donald Trump—no small feat. He is the executive chairman of the hard-right Breitbart News, among the most aggressive voices online, its website an attack machine against Democrats and “establishment” conservatives. President-elect Trump chose Mr. Bannon this week as his chief strategist and senior counselor, a slot usually filed by someone eager to play a presidential surrogate on TV.

    Yet Mr. Bannon—who joined the Trump campaign in mid-August to propel its thunderbolt victory—professes no interest in being the story. “It’s not important to be known,” he says in a telephone interview Thursday night, among his first public comments since the election. “It was Lao Tzu who said that with the best leaders, when the work is accomplished, the people will say ‘We have done this ourselves.’ That’s how I’ve led.”

    Nor does he profess to care that Democrats and the media are portraying him as a “cloven-hoofed devil,” as he puts it. “I pride myself in doing things that matter. What mattered in the campaign was winning. We did. What matters now is pulling together the single best team we can to implement President-elect Trump’s vision.

    He continues: “How can you take anything seriously from a media apparatus—paid the amount of money you people are paid—that systematically missed something that was so obvious, that missed Brexit, that missed the Trump revolution? You’d have thought they’d have learned their lesson on November 8.”

    Slight pause. “They clearly haven’t.”

    Here are a few things you’ve likely read about Steve Bannon this week: He’s a white supremacist, a bigot and anti-Semite. He’s a self-described Leninist who wants to “destroy the state.” He’s associated with the “alt-right,” a movement that, according to the New York Times, delights in “harassing Jews, Muslims and other vulnerable groups by spewing shocking insults on social media.”

    You’ll have seen some of Breitbart’s more offensive headlines, which refer to “renegade” Jews and the “dangerous (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) tour.” You maybe heard that Breitbart is gearing up to be a Pravda-like state organ for the Trump administration.

    Mr. Bannon is an aggressive political scrapper, unabashed in his views, but he says those views bear no relation to the media’s description. Over 70 minutes, he describes himself as a “conservative,” a “populist” and an “economic nationalist.” He’s a talker, but unexcitable, speaking in measured tones. A former naval officer, he thinks in military terms and likes to quote philosophers and generals. He’s contemptuous of the media, proud of Breitbart, protective of the “deplorables,” and—at least at the moment—eager to work with everyone from soon-to-be White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus to House Speaker Paul Ryan.

    At first Mr. Bannon insists that he has no interest in “wasting time” addressing the accusations against him. Yet he’s soon ticking off the reasons they are “just nonsense.”

    Anti-Semitic? “Breitbart is the most pro-Israel site in the United States of America. I have Breitbart Jerusalem, which I have Aaron Klein run with about 10 reporters there. We’ve been leaders in stopping this BDS movement”—meaning boycott, divestment and sanctions—“in the United States; we’re a leader in the reporting of young Jewish students being harassed on American campuses; we’ve been a leader on reporting on the terrible plight of the Jews in Europe.” He adds that given his many Jewish partners and writers, “guys like Joel Pollak, these claims of anti-Semitism just aren’t serious. It’s a joke.”

    He blames the attacks on a lazy media, noting for instance that the “renegade Jew” line wasn’t Breitbart’s. Conservative activist David Horowitz (also Jewish) has taken responsibility for writing the headline himself, in a piece about Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol.

    The Lenin anecdote came from an article in the Daily Beast by a writer who claimed to have spoken with Mr. Bannon in 2013: “So a guy I’ve never heard of in my life claims he met me at a party, and then claims I said something about Lenin, and this is taken as gospel truth, with nobody checking it.”

    What about the charge of white supremacism? “I’m an economic nationalist. I am an America first guy. And I have admired nationalist movements throughout the world, have said repeatedly strong nations make great neighbors. I’ve also said repeatedly that the ethno-nationalist movement, prominent in Europe, will change over time. I’ve never been a supporter of ethno-nationalism.”

    Mr. Bannon says the accusations miss that “the black working and middle class and the Hispanic working and middle class, just like whites, have been severely hurt by the policies of globalism.” He adds that he urged candidate Trump to reach out in his campaigning. “I was the one who said we are going to Flint, Michigan, we are going to black churches in Cleveland, because the thrust of this movement is that we are going to bring capitalism to the inner cities.”

    Why does he think that leftists are so fixated on him? “They were ready to coronate Hillary Clinton. That didn’t happen, and I’m one of the reasons why. So, by the way, I wear these attacks as an emblem of pride.”

    Mr. Bannon is fiercely proud of the bomb-throwing Breitbart News, too. He credits it with “catching and understanding this populist movement” as far back as 2013, narrating the rise of the UK Independence Party in Britain, the exit movement for Scotland, and ultimately Brexit. “We were on to this change years before Donald Trump came on the scene,” he says.

    He acknowledges that the site is “edgy” but insists it is “vibrant.” He offers his own definition of the alt-right movement and explains how he sees it fitting into Breitbart. “Our definition of the alt-right is younger people who are anti-globalists, very nationalist, terribly anti-establishment.”

    But he says Breitbart is also a platform for “libertarians,” Zionists, “the conservative gay community,” “proponents of restrictions on gay marriage,” “economic nationalism” and “populism” and “the anti-establishment.” In other words, the site hosts many views. “We provide an outlet for 10 or 12 or 15 lines of thought—we set it up that way” and the alt-right is “a tiny part of that.” Yes, he concedes, the alt-right has “some racial and anti-Semitic overtones.” He makes clear he has zero tolerance for such views.


    All this said, Mr. Bannon explains he’s on sabbatical from Breitbart and has had “nothing to do with the site since August 15,” when he joined the Trump campaign. Now he will take an “extended leave of absence and cut all association with the site while I’m working at the pleasure of the president.” He adds that Breitbart “didn’t get a scoop from the campaign from the minute I took over; they’ve had to scramble like everybody else.”

    Yet given its loyalty to Messrs. Bannon and Trump, won’t Breitbart serve as an attack dog against Republicans who defy the new president? Mr. Bannon says he believes the site will “call it as it sees it” and that even the Trump administration will be open for criticism if it doesn’t “stay true to its vision.” He adds: “If we don’t, I assume they will hammer us.”

    As for how Breitbart will treat other Republicans: “Do I see them jumping in and backing Paul Ryan? Probably not. But I have no control over that. I’m sure if you look at some of the names being rumored for positions, walking through Trump tower, folks like [South Carolina Gov.] Nikki Haley, and you look at the comments section of Breitbart, I’m sure they aren’t exactly high-fiving. But that’s fantastic. The reason that Breitbart has gotten so big is because it has spirit.”

    Mr. Bannon’s role in the Trump campaign was never made clear, though fellow adviser Kellyanne Conway called him the campaign’s “general” and a “brilliant tactician.” Mr. Bannon describes a close alliance of himself, Ms. Conway and Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner, who developed a very “tight strategy” that relied on targeted speeches, rallies and social media. They envisioned two possible paths to the White House: one that hinged on Nevada and New Hampshire; the other that “leveraged Ohio” and rolled up Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. By the last week they saw the latter plan coming together.
     
  3. Derideo_Te

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    Immunity from what charges?

    If you imagine that convicted criminal O'Keefe's bogus video is going to stand up as evidence in a court of law you are only deluding yourself.

    If he won't hand over the original unedited videos there is no case whatsoever and if he does the charges will be dropped because it will be readily apparent that convicted criminal O'Keefe tampered with the evidence. The defense will have the charges thrown out on that basis alone.

    Sessions will just expose himself as a fool and a pawn if he even tries to press charges based upon nothing but convicted criminal O'Keefe's video canards.
     
  4. Derideo_Te

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    O'Keefe trespassed on federal property with the intent to illegally wiretap the phones. That is a criminal felony and he would have done jail time except that he got off on a plea bargain.
     
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    It was a misdemeanor dude. Get over it.
     
  6. AFM

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    All charges. Similar to the immunity that Cheryl Mills received.
     
  7. Derideo_Te

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    Convicted criminal O'Keefe was apprehended committing a federal crime.

    He plea bargained the charges.

    That is reality.

    Deal with it.
     
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    Please stipulate the exact charges and the related laws that were allegedly violated.
     
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    O'Keefe was doing what all investigative journalists do. If the evidence was strong he would have been tried for the felony. Deal with it.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/james-okeefe-avoids-jail-time/
     
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    The plea bargaining had nothing whatsoever to do with the strength of the evidence. It was most likely because it was a first offence with no prior record of criminal wrongdoing.

    Investigative journalists do not enter federal buildings under false pretenses in order to illegally wiretap the phones of elected officials.

    And if this is the case then you should have no problem whatsoever providing the names of other such "investigative journalists" who have done exactly the same thing, right?

    So what are their names and whose phones did they illegally wiretap?
     
  11. AFM

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    It had everything to do with the lack of evidence. Pleas are not reduced by the defendents.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...1/26/AR2010012604145.html?sid=ST2011020203536
     
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    The Washington post is hardly a supporter of O'Keefe.
     
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    The WaPo article corroborated everything that I have been saying about convicted criminal O'Keefe.

    What I found highly amusing was the part of the article that you quoted out of context.
     
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    Perhaps you should re read it.
     
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    Words matter Hillary.
     
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    Wow. Big allegations. Any proof?
     
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    Racism and misogyny are phony non-issues????
     
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    Nice projection. You've described Democrats pretty well, except they get fools to argue endlessly about racism and other social justice nonsense rather than civil rights.
     
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    No, they rejected neoliberalism, which both parties embrace. And they rejected PC authoritarianism, and (*)(*)(*)(*) for brains SJW. They would embrace FDR progressivism, for some of them know this is anti open borders free trade. Liberalism, modern liberalism is an aberration, a corruption, pure extremism, just like the alt right, which trump does not really speak for.

    Hillary like Obama, like much of the democratic party, and most of the GOP are neoliberal neocons. Trump and sanders were agents of change, that is, unless trump turns into just another neoliberal neocon. We shall have to wait and see. For the GOP, being neoliberal neocons, should fight him when he tries to take on open borders free trade. When he, if he, refuses to indulge in the neocon, New American Century philosophy, which Hillary embraced.

    IF trump takes on the neoliberals and the neocons, he will keep his campaign promises. So, we shall just have to wait and see if he like Obama, gets amnesia when he walks into the oval office. The safe bet is to bet on him being like Obama in this regard. For this always seems to happen.
     
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    Here's more:

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article...n-america-howard-dean-apologize-disgracefully


    Zionist Organization of America to Howard Dean: 'Apologize For Disgracefully Calling Steve Bannon a Nazi'

    By Michael W. Chapman | November 23, 2016 | 3:20 PM EST


    Howard Dean, former head of the

    Democratic National Committee.

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    (CNSNews.com) -- In response to Democrat Howard Dean labeling President-elect Donald J. Trump's chief strateigist, Stephen Bannon, a "Nazi" and "anti-Semitic," the Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) called on Dean to retract his claim and apologize.

    "The ZOA calls upon former Democratic National Committee Chair Howard Dean to retract and apologize to President-elect Trump's appointee Stephen Bannon for absurdly and disgracefully calling Mr. Bannon a 'Nazi,' anti-Semitic, and other untrue epithets," said ZOA President Morton A. Klein in a Nov. 22 press release.

    In a Nov. 20 interview on CNN-Canada, Dean said Trump was a "complicated guy," and added, "He appoints a reasonable person [Rence Priebus], who's much more conservative than I am -- but for somebody who can talk to -- as chief of staff, and then his senior adviser is a Nazi."

    "[Bannon is] anti-Semitic, he's anti-black, and he's anti-women," said Dean.


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    When challenged by the CNN host about the use of the word "Nazi," Dean said, "It's a big word, and I don't usually use it unless somebody's really anti-Semitic, really misogynist and really anti-black."

    "As ZOA and numerous others previously documented, there is no truth to Howard Dean's accusations," said Klein. In the ZOA statement it explained that Klein is the child of Holocaust survivors and that "Bannon helped ZOA combat anti-Semitism at City University, and is a strong supporter of Israel, and that the ADL's anti-Semitism allegations against Bannon constituted character assassination."



    Stephen Bannon, senior adviser to President-elect Donald J. Trump. (AP)
    The statement further noted that Orthodox Jewish writer Joel B. Pollak, "who worked with Mr. Bannon for six years, wrote that Mr. Bannon is 'an American patriot who defends Israel and has deep empathy for the Jewish people.'"

    The National Socialist German Workers' Party, or Nazi Party, governed Germany under dictator Adolf Hitler from 1933 to 1945. The Nazi Party was dissolved on October 10, 1945, a little more than 71 years ago.

    According to its press release, the ZOA "is the oldest and one of the largest pro-Israel organizations in the United States. With offices around the country and in Israel, the ZOAeducates the public, elected officials, the media, and college/high school students about the truth of the ongoing Arab war against Israel. The ZOA works to strengthen U.S.- Israel relations through educational activities, public affairs programs and our work on Capitol Hill, and to combat anti-Semitism and anti-Israel bias in the media, in textbooks, in schools and on college campuses."



    Zionist Organization of America President Morton A. Klein. (AP)

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    The Democrats embrace race hustlers like Al Sharpton and groups like BLM or the Muslim Brotherhood and then complain, without evidence, of Steve Bannon.

    Educational reform can't come soon enough.
     
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    That entire thing claiming BLM is a racist thing, when it's a anti-white supremacist.
    /facepalm
     

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