Palestinians are a Myth

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    " On the day that independence was declared Egyptian aircraft bombed Tel Aviv. They were the first bombs dropped on the city from the air since 1940..." (Israel ,Gilbert, p.149)

    That was May 14, 1948.

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    There is distinction between the Jews and the Arabs. Both Jews and Arabs recoginze it.

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    When some third party gives away your homeland, you fight back.
     
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    Just religion unless you are counting the converts of Khazaria.
     
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    Thats fine. When you loose, you loose. Then Israel takes back that which was hers in the first place. See how that works.

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    No. Not just religion, though definitely religion. One is decendant from Sarah, Abrahams wife, Sarah. And one is decendant from Hagar, Abrahams servant woman.

    Jews come from Sarah, who bore Isaac. Arabs come from Hagar who bore Ishamael.

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    All the ancient Jews had foreign wives.

    Abraham also had 6 sons by the Arab woman Keturah..

    Remember... the Jews forced conversion on the Edomites.

    the Invention of the Jewish People

    http://inventionofthejewishpeople.c...ention-of-the-jewish-people-earth-shattering/

    There was NO forced diaspora.. Look at the Jewish population of Rome and Alexandria long before the birth of Christ.
     
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    That doesn't matter. Israel comes from the promised son Isaac. And Isaac only.

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    According to their mythology...
     
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    No, according to the Bible.

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    Yes.. they wrote their "history" after the Babylonian exile.
     
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    There is no serious evidence that there were any converts other than maybe the King of Kahzar himself
     
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    Sure there is .

    History of Turkic people and Jews in Russia and the Ukraine.

    http://www.khazaria.com/

    scroll down .. there are letters and archeological digs.
     
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    Not Genesis.

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    Yes.. they wrote Genesis and Exodus after they wrote Leviticus..

    That's why they borrowed so heavily from the mythos of Sumer.
     
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    Sorry. Your order is amiss. The first five books of the Bible were not written after the exile.

    There was no borrowing frome anything.

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    The first five books of the Bible were written during and after the Babylonian exile.. They copied the rich history and mythos of the Babylonians... This is how the Jews created a history and identity for themselves.. to set them apart from the other Canaanite tribes.

    The Creation story and the Flood story were borrowed , and the tale of Moses is a rewrite of the romantic tale of Sihuhe the Egyptian ....
     
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    They copied nothing. The Jews did not create anything. To the Jews was given the revelation from God.

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    Exactly; mythology.:mrgreen:
     
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    information On Khazaria
     
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    There is no 'god'. It's a man-made construct.
     
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    Do Arabs believe that? Do Jews believe that?

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    Israel was created by jews murdering tolerant palestinians and stealing thier lands over time. The people living in the lands the jews stole were very loose knit and did not respond to jewish murder and theft as one people.

    Zionist Jews rob and kill to facilitate theft.They use their "we are the chosen people" religious bull(*)(*)(*)(*) to justify thier crimes. Zionist jews learned well from the Nazi's
     
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    US aid to Israel started in 1948 as food aid.

    Over the years tiny Israel has been the oldest and biggest recipient of US aid in History.
     
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    You have it all backwards. The episodes recorded in Genesis were well known, because these are events the happened to humanity. The Torah version is correct and everyone else had it distorted.

    We see this to be true, as science reveals more and more of what the Torah always knew.

    Nachmanadies, one of the greatest Rabbis of the last 1,000 years (lived about 1,000 years ago) wrote in his commentary to Genesis something amazing.

    "I do understand what I am about to write, but it has been handed down through the ages as truth. God created the world from a tiny space probably the size of mustard seed. Within this space was contained all the matter for which everything would ever be created and the matter was lit like a feather and than God commanded it to expand and from there the world was created"

    Now if we look at the Hebrew text and at science we see how true this is and that only the Almighty who wrote this could have known this.

    בְּרֵאשִׁית, בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים, אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם, וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ.

    "God Created the Beginning, and the sky and the land"

    Ok lets take this in order. First god created a beginning, which according to science and nachmanodies was this spinning dot and within the dot was the matter.
    The Hebrew word את we translate as "and", however you do not really need these two letters of א and ת if you want to add something normally in Hebrew you just need the singular letter ו and that means "and".

    So we have to go back to the order god created the concept of beginning, than he created the א-ת for creation. א is the first Hebrew letter and ת is the last letter. Meaning to say before God created anything tangible he first created the A-Z which makes everything else possible.

    Now continuing with the verse
    וְהָאָרֶץ, הָיְתָה תֹהוּ וָבֹהוּ, וְחֹשֶׁךְ, עַל-פְּנֵי תְהוֹם
    "The land was empty without shape, and darkness was on the face of the deep"

    Ok so what the heck is going on here. Well the early man had no idea, Nachmanodies and his teachers knew but did not understand and today thanks to science we are starting to understand. There was no land yet, the land so to speak was matter which does not have any shape and is thus empty. Scientist are now learning that the universe was born from a black hole, which would explain the "darkness on the face of the deep"

    רוּחַ אֱלֹהִים, מְרַחֶפֶת
    "And the spirit of God hovered"

    What does this mean. The great Torah commentator Rashi, states that this word מְרַחֶפֶת to hover like a mother bird hovers over a nest. When you put Rashi and Nachmanidies together we now understand that God is so to speak deciding to do something with this nest of the universe this tiny point from which everything would be created. God attends to so to speak like a mother bird attending to her nest.

    וַיֹּאמֶר אֱלֹהִים, יְהִי אוֹר; וַיְהִי-אוֹר
    "And the Lord say let there be light and there was light"

    There is now a big bang, a mass explosion and lot of light.

    וַיַּבְדֵּל אֱלֹהִים, בֵּין הָאוֹר וּבֵין הַחֹשֶׁךְ.
    "And the Lord separated between the light and the darkness"

    Ok why would God have to divide between light and darkness? So now science has clarified what that means as well. We know at the moment of the big bang the tempter was so hot electrons photons were constantly "reflected" from the free electrons through a process called Thomson scattering. Because of this repeated scattering, the early Universe was opaque to light. So God had to at some point divide or allow the universe to cool to point that light could be observed.

    Now God put this into a simple 6 day creation format in order that it could be somewhat grasped by the early man. Up until 2500 years ago there was such a thing a prophecy in the world it was how humanity connected to God, it was on the one hand more direct and on the other forced us to keep a distance. The God stopped the prophecy thing, he took away our ears and opened up our eyes. He began to allow humanity to open the door to the secrets to the universe and that was around the time of the Greeks. As the hearing of humanity failed us our eye sight began to increase. Today we are drawing closer and closer to the Truth of the Torah and One God through opening eyes and understanding the amazing world that He created and we are understanding he had left us this truth in the Torah.

    Wow all this is just the first 4 verses of the Torah.
     

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