Part 6 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

There you go...with your comprehension problem...lol

 

Mine was the NIV, I already gave you the chapter and the verses were in the quote.
Stop being silly. Choose the version you like. It won't change the meaning.
You want to really get a great translation? The best study bibles are in the NRSV. Oxford, Harper Collins. Great stuff.

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Avoiding the question is not an answer.

 

You're being very silly.
I never said I was quoting. It was a paraphrase.
What do you think is wrong with this interpretation?
Stop avoiding and whining.

 

Anything coming from the bible is not speculation. It is the truth. The bible is the Word of God. But if I was to say something outside of the bible then that becomes speculation on my part.

You either have faith in the bible or don't . Obviously I have faith in the bible and you don't. I can only speculate that you probably believe everything in existence just somehow mysteriously popped into existence from nothing. Or you simply just don't know...which you make you an agnostic, otherwise if you claim you believe God doesn't exist, then you are an atheist.

 

The bible disagrees with itself numerous times, yet it is "the truth."

LOL

 

The Fruits of the Spirit are peace, love, joy, patience, goodness, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. Paul tells us these are the characteristics present in someone indwelt by the Holy Spirit.
Why don't you demonstrate them?

 

Do everybody and yourself a favor. Don't paraphrase anything from the bible...just give exact quotes. Because when people paraphrase they are in essence twisting, or spinning the true meaning of the phrase or verse or quote or passage...understand now?

 

I did, and you've been avoiding them ever since.

 

Oh you're too funny now...an atheist preaching the gospel...lol

 

I am an ordained minister.
You are really digging a very deep hole.

 

Quote Posted by GraspingforPeace:

What do you care if there was writing 6,000 years ago? You said you won't believe anything but the Bible anyways so why even make the point?
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Well if we say the Great Flood happened 5,000 BC , that is pretty close to when it happened according to biblical scholars, then there could be writings 6,000 yrs. ago, and so do we have any writings? and if we do from whom? These writings would of course be a 1,000 yrs. after the Great Flood.

 

You did say something outside the Bible. You said it was "truth" but it was pure speculation.

Genesis says that we are made in God's image (or actually "our image" = Gods, not God) It is pure speculation to say that this means we have a spirit nature in us that is just like God. Your comment on what happens to our bodies after we die is also speculation.

Considering that you do not even seem to know what is written in the Bible and certainly show no evidence of having studied the Bible in any great detail, what is your faith worth ?

Faith in what ? not in the Bible but in some religious dogma that you have consumed.

As is stated in James 2 "faith without works is useless" I will take the liberty of adding to James's comments and state that a faith borne of ignorance is also useless.

Try removing the log cabin from your own eye rather than making up stuff as you go along about others.

 

More Bible ignorance. The Flood is said to have happened somewhere roughly between 2100 and 2300 BC. 5000 BC is not even in the ballpark.

 

Quote Posted by Mjolnir:
Adam and Eve didn't know the difference between good and evil, so how can they be said to have "chosen" to sin?
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Although Adam and Eve existed in a perfect state that did not deprive Adam and Eve of free will.

Genesis 3:4-5 tells us that the serpent firstly modified God's Word by promising Eve that by taking of the forbidden fruit she would not surely die.

Second, he enticed her with the promise of knowledge (knowing good and evil) and will be just like God.

So you could say that Eve was led into believing that the serpent was showing her a "fast-track" way to become closer to God and be just like God.

But as it turned out, they drew further away from God, separated from Him, because of disobeying Him and bringing sin into the world with the knowledge of knowing both good and evil because of eating the forbidden fruit that God told them not to eat.

And so here we are every single last one of us are...sinners and destined to die!

But wait!..there is still hope for us...God has not abandoned us. He has given us a way to redeem ourselves, He has given us a Savior in Jesus Christ our Lord, in that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting eternal life in heaven.

 

What ball park?...the atheist ball park?...lol

 

No actually if you would look beyond the fairytales you would see it.......still waiting on the answer as to why the pyramids show no signs of having been underwater.

 

Plus there would be a globally laid down layer of sediment.

But, FFS, the flood myth is not even realistic. We don't have enough water on the planet to cover all of the continents at once. Melt every glacier if you like - it's just not happening.

 

It is simply not possible that there was actually a world wide flood with all the animals in the world saved by a guy building a boat. Even with today's technology, such a thing would not be possible, even if a universal flood were.

and, of course, you're right that there isn't enough water to cover all of the Earth's land masses anyway.

it is possible that someone built a barge and saved some farm animals from a flood.

But it is far more likely that the Noah story is simply an allegorical tale, perhaps based on the Epic of Gilgamesh.

 

Indeed. Another sign it would have left behind would have been a severe lack of genetic diversity in the lifeforms that had to be preserved on the ark. As it is, only certain species, such as the Cheetah, exhibit such signs.

 

What is your issue ? 2100-2300 is the standard dating according to the genealogies in the Bible.

Hopefully "creation .com" is not to atheist for you.

http://creation.com/the-date-of-noahs-flood

 

Correct, and humans show a lack of genetic diversity as well, but not as severe as having sprung from just two individuals a few thousand years ago. It appears that we were down to around 2,000 individuals around 70,000 years ago, however.

 

Argument from ignorance. Yes, they were ape-like. If you don't want to believe it just because you don't want to, then there isn't much I can do for you. You're close minded.

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Or because Christians can't even be consistent with attempted explanations of the contradictions.

 

I've read the Bible. Point out the verse where the Bible says God sent prophets to the any other nation but Israel.

 

Like conspiracy theorists, they will simply whip up an argument to serve to defend their faith at a given moment with little heed to evidence or contradictions.

 

LOL. Many of us have been telling you that for 6 threads now.
We don't need your biased opinions in your posts. Just the facts.