Part IV Post your tough Questions on Christianity

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  1. thebrucebeat

    thebrucebeat Banned

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    Here's what happens when people try to educate you.
    You try to pretend it never happened and ignore information you were not aware of. Information that challenges your cherished beliefs. Information you don't know what to do with. That scares you.
     
  2. Woody

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    Yeah right when:

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    Tell the same lies for 1600 years pretty soon you start to believe them yourself. You really should see a shrink and get a reality check.
     
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    Does seeing a shrink cause one to become an Atheist?
     
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    No. But believing in fairy tales will........
     
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    Now that is what I call an interesting statement. I sort of figured that might be the truth of the matter.
     
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    That was a different question. I even bolded it for you. I clearly asked why? You clearly dont know what to make of the dinosaurs. If you dont want to answer questions then dont start a thread asking for tough questions. It wastes all of our time. Notice how you ignored your own contradictions? In one sentence you say god made the dinosaurs and in another you say he didnt. You cant even be consistent with yourself its no wonder you think you answered questions when clearly you didnt.
    To make it remedial as possible, Ill ask a simplified version.
    Which is it, do you think God made the dinosaurs YES OR NO
    Answer YES OR NO here---->
    IF YES, WHY did god make them millions of years before man?
    Answer succinctly here ------->
     
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    Never claimed gay and straight were the same and none of my arguments rely on this.

    What difference should it make to the law whether someone is gay or straight, black or white.

    Your comment makes no sense.
     
  8. WanRen

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    Oh ok, after you posted that Hebrews stole the identity away from the Babylonians and Sumerian as shocking, ok I guess you didn't mean to imply it is anti Semite? If it is so why don't you say so. In this case I guess who were the Hebrews then before they stole the ID of Babylonians and Sumerians, were they former Egyptians or Hyksos? Come on stay within the subject.
     
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    Remember it was all about faith that also motivated men and women to make great discoveries in the advancement of science. Without faith we all will just seat back and wait for the apple to drop from the tree.

    Scientist even psychologist have no clear definition as to how or why faith works all they know is that it is some kind of an invincible driving force that some how make things happen against all factual odds.

    Back then the flip phone, video conference, Wifi etc. are just science fiction now they are a reality the people or individuals who work tirelessly to invent this devices had faith that they can make it work.

    In life and death situation it is only faith that we have to face death without fear and pray that there is indeed life after death.
    Luke 23:
    41“And we indeed are suffering justly, for we are receiving what we deserve for our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong.”
    42And he was saying, “Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!”
    43And He said to him, “Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise.”
     
  10. WanRen

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    Christian history did happen it is no fiction or fairy tale that is the information that is being share and educated to individuals such as you and does that scare me that it is being ignore, distorted and treated as that it never happen, no it does not scare me it only push me more to share the truth.
     
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    That is what anti Bible people have been doing for the last 1600 years spreading lies hoping that it will stick that is why they had Jesus crucified, they went after all Christians for 300 years from 1 AD to 300 AD feeding them to wild beast as entertainment, crucifying every Christian they see, and again in 600 AD they still try it again with their communist ideology, and now atheist are stepping it up but this time they are going after the very Bible no longer are they hunting down Christians instead they hide behind science to exploit science in attacking the Bible giving science a bad name.
     
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    Europeans were divided into Cro-Magnon and the Neanderthal. Semites had a similar division, with the Hebrews, Trojans, Babylonians, Egyptians, Phoenicians, and Carthiginians representing the evolved species. Their version of the Neanderthal was expressed by the Arabs and Berbers. This is logical, not academic. The same split happened in the Far East too.
     
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    You ask why, and I answer then you follow it up with "no one answer my question" you may not like my answer the bottom line is it was answer. Now you need to admit if your question was answer or not?

    It was answer at first that I said IMO God did not created the dinosaur the dinosaur were cause by the fallen angels. Then in part IV you raise the same issue but this time you claim no one answer your question so I answer it again and this time I said, God created all creatures including dinosaurs and that fallen angels corrupted the world and cause all dinosaurs to disappear.

    Now need you to confirm this before I proceed to answer your next tough questions: To save you time I will assume again, I said I WILL ASSUME you confirm that I did answer your previous questions so I will answer your simplified questions below:

    Yes

    Because according to Genesis 1 that is what God did He created all creatures first before man
    20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.

    24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.


    I assume since you don't believe in the Bible your question is why creatures first and not man?
    two answers;
    1. Who knows what was God's intention why creatures first then man.
    2. We can theorise either positively or negatively in your case I know you will theorise negatively, me I will theorise positively and the reason creatures were created first before man is IMO God wanted the earth to be inhabited by these creatures first as part of the natural cycle to sustain the earth. Then God decided to create man because He decided that it time to past the responsibility or share to man the greatest gift of creation for the maintenance and expansion of the earth and the universe to man :He created men in His image and likeness; 26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

    As far as the million of years, as I have said what is one day in human years can easily be millions or billions of years to God for God is timeless and infinite.
     
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    And what a ridiculous and sacrilegious story that was,

    First, the guy is being crucified to death for being a thief, but thinks he is "suffering justly". Second he claims Jesus did nothing wrong but how could he know so? In fact, Jesus's crimes were much worse then being a thief, he challenged the authority of not only Rome but the Temple and set himself up as a King by calling himself a "son of God".

    Third, the thief never repents for his deeds or ask for forgiveness, he asks to be remembered and for that, evidently, he gets into heaven.
     
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    Was Jesus writing their sins on the ground? Why does the Bible have to be so vague? My conclusion is obviously true, but I never realized it before and no one explains it that way. When things are vague, they are purposely written so that power-hungry opportunists can interpret them any way that serves them best.

    The worst is Atonement. That gets sinners off the hook and it makes no sense. Imagine the boss getting angry at his lazy employees and whipping his son as atonement. A rational answer about the Crucifixion is that the religious authorities were guilty of it. When Christianity had its own guilty hierarchy, they came up with this Atonement nonsense, or blamed the Jews. Jesus was really the first Protestant, and paid for it like Jan Huss did.
     
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    Why are amino acids left-handed? You can't get that unless they have been flipped in another spatial dimension, which authoritarian science refuses to recognize.
     
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    Probably because it might have been called left handed by a scientist that was left handed and he/she wanted to gain a little recognition for all the left handed people in the world. chuckle.
     
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    You'd like people to believe that, wouldn't you? You know perfectly well I'm not referring to mere difference, but to a harmful difference that disqualifies perverts from having equal rights. Heterophobes really write the book on dishonest debate. That's because their perversion comes from a personality disorder.
     
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    What spurred these people on was the pursuit of truth and an inescapable curiosity. Gallileo sacrificed his station in the church in pursuit of truth. He was willing to sacrifice his most cherished beliefs in order to be honest with himself. The church knew he was right, but kept him under wraps for years in spite of knowing they were protecting a lie. The followers of the church were their victims.
    You are a victim of the same kind of abuse.
    The excuses you give on this thread aren't your own ideas. They are regurgitations of things you've read that were crafted to keep you in the fold. When you go off these scripted excuses, your posts get totally absurd and unhinged, logically tortured.
    Faith is a wonderful comfort, especially when facing the ultimate moment. You want to live forever and can't face your own personal end. You have created a narrative that gives you succor. It doesn't make it true, simply because it soothes you. It merely satiates your fear, which you are overwhelmed by.
     
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    Interestingly, you never address my post. The Woman at the Well doesn't appear in the oldest known manuscripts. It wasn't part of the original scriptures and was added later by someone with an agenda, no matter how cherished that agenda has become over the years. That scares you, because you choose to ignore it, treat it as if it never "happen"(sic).
    The more you try to share the "truth", the more it becomes apparent that what you believe is a complete fabrication.
     
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    Science is for suckers who become Cash Cows for MBA Milkmaids. These gutless scab scientists are motivated by escapism. So are religious believers.

    Because of their insults and ingratitude, people don't deserve the benefits scientists sheepishly pass out to them. The corporations that most of the nerdbashers credit for the scientists' inventions are parasites. I recommend that the scientists embezzle their own patents back and hack into the parasites' private bank accounts.

    But enough about getting back what rightfully belongs to you. The corporate parasites are just like the religious leaders. Meet them both at the intersection of Wall Street and Church Street. And don't give me that crap that God is not guilty for the sins of these people. No God worth worshipping would allow people to sin in his name and fleece innocent believers.


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    Love it! Can I use it?
     
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    Can we all agree Wan-Ren is probably the worst person on the site to "answer tough questions on christianity"? His weak answers, when he offers an answer, have probably driven dozens from the arms of christianity.

    Boy is jesus going to be pissed.
     
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    "I am the Truth, which is the way"... certainly proves out Galileo as a Christian and the fact that Theocracies inherently oppose this whenever truth coreects the existing "laws" theocracy's call doctrine..
     
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    wtf? That makes no sense.
     
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