Pelosi Pressed Pentagon on Safeguards to Prevent Trump From Ordering Military Action

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  1. TOG 6

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/us/politics/trump-pelosi-nuclear-military.html

    Sedition:
    Incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/07/arts/what-are-sedition-charges.html


    18 U.S. Code § 2387 - Activities affecting armed forces generally
    (a) Whoever, with intent to interfere with, impair, or influence the loyalty, morale, or discipline of the military or naval forces of the United States:
    (1) advises, counsels, urges, or in any manner causes or attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United States; or
    (2) distributes or attempts to distribute any written or printed matter which advises, counsels, or urges insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any member of the military or naval forces of the United
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2387

    Nancy Pelosi, clearly, committed sedition and violated federal law
    Lock her up.
    Right?
     
  2. apexofpurple

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    There really was no legitimate reason to do this. Pres Trump has been more anti-war than any President in and of our lifetimes. She did this just to make news and to give outrage obsessed leftists something to mouth foam over.
     
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    Good thing the number 3 person in charge is looking out for all of our best interests!

    Like I trust a stable genius?.....His words not mine
     
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    Trump is mentally unstable.

    His followers entered the Capitol to find Pence and Pelosi to kill them.

    In a democracy like the US, you don't leave the nuclear codes to a psychopath who manipulates the masses in this way.
     
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  5. Arkanis

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    No.

    Pelosi acted because Trump became an enemy of the Constitution.

    His behavior is highly responsible and that Trump is deprived of the possibility of starting a nuclear war reassures me enormously.
     
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    Incorrect. Anyone who believes that a President who spent 4 years ending wars would just randomly nuke something is mentally unstable. Don't peddle this nonsense to me again, please.
     
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    • Pence overrides Trump and sends National Guard to DC
    • Pelosi trying to strip Trump of military authority prematurely
    • Billionaire tech platforms ban him in unison; MSM ignores his public appearances selectively; supporters constantly demonized by every major corporation
    • Legislature about to push for 2nd impeachment attempt just days before term expires; at least one Republican Senator now threatening to leave the party unless he's convicted
    Honestly - the balls on people to say that Trump is executing a coup right now...
     
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  8. Arkanis

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    If you could guarantee me the mental stability of any American, there would be no more mass shooting in the country.

    Trump has always been unstable, but he became particularly dangerous when he lost the elections.

    He set up false propaganda by claiming that there had been massive fraud and used the hatred of his supporters to overthrow democracy.

    Once all the courts of justice had rejected his cases and all the states had certified the results, Trump became an enemy of the constitution.
     
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    When you people finally come to the realization that trump is the problem and not the rest of the WORLD?
     
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    I would be more receptive to this sentiment if Trump was actually causing bigger problems.
     
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    Yes, right. If anyone should be charged with an attempted coup of a sitting president and sedition, it is Pelosi and Schumer. It has been them trampling democracy and the constitution since Day One.


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    https://twitter.com/AlanDersh/status/1347748788325126145


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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-against-trump-editorials-debates/6582736002/
     
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    Translation:
    You cannot soundly argue against the charge that Pelosi committed sedition.
     
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    Her action - prima facie - falls under the definition of sedition,as per Federal law.
    Please demonstrate otherwise.
     
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    he didn't end a damn thing but our ability to beat the snot out of a sandbox bully with an ego even fatter than his golfcart ass. but he's going.
     
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    My original post was a bit off-topic on 25th Amendment (sorry), not on the thread topic of Pelosi's Abuse of Power and sedition in attempting a military coup.

     
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    It's not my responsibility to contradict the nonsense you post here.

    You have a duty to prove what you are saying.

    To claim that Pelosi committed a crime by ensuring that Trump will not start a nuclear war after the events of January 6 is abjectly stupid.

    Your interpretation of the Constitution is as flawed as that of Trump and the clowns who serve as his lawyers.
     
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    Oh hell, you're right, we're sorry. It's not like he flat out told thousands of his most unstable followers to attack the Capitol building or anything.
     
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    BS in BS out BFD
     
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    During the speech that day? I watched but he did not say that. Point me to the worst line in the speech so I can know exactly where he did it.
     
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    “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.” - Donald Trump, January 6, 2021

    When Trump Tweeted a video condemning the rioters, Twitter deleted it.

    Trump said absolutely nothing different from elected Democrat leaders. If Trump is "guilty" of inciting riots, so are these women.

    Both sides know very well that when a large protest gathers, a small percentage or rioters will be present. Everyone needs to stop be a partisan hypocrite.

    This is today's political environment. Either lock them all up for fomenting division, insurgency and violence, or lock up none of them. It's all or none, because acting like one side is excusable and the other isn't is only causing more hate and angst.

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    I sentence you to 5 year confinement in Whataboutism Hell with Rick! More seriously: this. Democrats are playing the game where you and I are supposed to get mad and constantly perceive significant out-group threats, but then they get more votes and more money and more influence in our country's government. The wake they leave across the nation will be one of intolerance, deception, and pandering.
     
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    He didn't. Democrats and corporate media just need to continue to divide the country for their own legacy and financial gain.

    On the rare occasions that citizens all agree that "riots are bad", leaders are not leaning in to the agreement to heal the nation, but dividing us further. That's good for their careers, not good for us "the people".

    Biden is not going to be a unifier. The country will be more divided and worse off than ever, again, four years from now.

    People need to turn off their TV's if they're too dumb to see the strategy. The "us v. them" is not between citizens, it's between corrupted Establishment Power against the rest of us.
     
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    glaring difference, these were enraged seditionists who will take a bullet for him and are vs teachers being seriously dumped on
     
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    A wise a prudent move on her part, someone has to be in charge and sure as hell isn't the trumpers.
     
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    Wow. How many more problems can he cause until his supporters understand he's dangerous and NOT acting for the good of, we, the people?

    At least he was honest when he said that he could shoot somebody on not lose supporters.
     
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