Pentagon punchout hole?

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    the gubafia certainly hasnt, in fact they come up with what is best described as a sick comedy.
     
  2. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Still can't come up with anything other than troll posts, Koko? Awww. Yeah, I would be pretty butthurt too if people kept trashing my theories and showing what an idiot I am like not knowing the difference between a 737 and a 747. :lol:

    So how about explaining the even more unbelievable feat of having a 747 flying over the Pentagon at full throttle? Go ahead. You have the videos to prove your silliness, right?
     
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    everyone trashes your theories all the time, nothing new there.

    I bet your butt does hurt.

    I said it was a eb4

    who says full throttle? you?
     
  4. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Another example of Koko's lies.

    And, as usual, you would be wrong. I'm not the one making lameassed comments that are blatantly wrong.

    Wrong yet again. Don't you hate getting caught in all these lies? :lol: You had the code right. It is an e-4b and it was in the air on 9/11. Just nowhere near the Pentagon and definitely not low enough to pretend to crash into it.

    Here is what you said.

    And, since everyone knows you aren't nearly as intelligent as you claim to be, here is the information on the E-4B, which is indeed a 747

    BTW, why would they use a CNC airliner capable of surviving an EMP blast? :lol: Yet another question your lameassed theories fail to answer.

    The witnesses. Please try to keep up. You're embarassing your fellow truthers with your inability to follow simple conversations.
     
  5. Kokomojojo

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    aw lucky you !

    caught me in a brain fart.

    yes the e4b is a 747 not a 737.

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    so I guess that makes you correct on everything you ever type from now on!

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  6. Scott

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  7. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    :lol: Can't respond to the issues so you run away and try to hide behind made up bull(*)(*)(*)(*)? :lol: CLASSIC!!!!

    I said the number of witnesses didn't matter. 2? 13? Why do you ignore the hundreds of others that said it happened the way the government said? Why do you ignore all the other evidence that shows the plane coming in from the angle claimed? Oh right. You want to pretend the government somehow planted everyone on the freeway. :lol: So much for your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claims that truthers look at the evidence.

    So what is to stop truthers from planting the 2 - 13 witnesses who said it was slightly different? You truthers have no problems at all lying or being dishonest and it is easy to come up with someone willing to lie for 15 minutes of fame.
     
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    Hardly.

    I encourage everyone to look into the bogus CIT claims, then research where their 'witnesses' were actually standing/ situated on 9/11.

    In other words, go right to the source.
     
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    Scotty, my boy, I'll see your 13 witnesses and raise you 90. (That's 103 witnesses that saw the plane hit the Pentagon)

    http://www.youtube.com/user/RKOwens4#p/u/24/t1wQ2BJsgx0
    1:34 into the video

    Not that it matters. You'll ask me for the list which I don't have but I am sure is public record. So if you really were a "truth seeker" you would try and find it for yourself.

    I could find it and present it to you but it would challenge your forgone conclusion and you would say "nuh uh, they were all plants" and we'd be right back where we started.

    I'll watch your silly videos at some point but I need to limit my time watching 9/11 truther nonsense on the computer or my wife might think I am as crazy as you guys. :mrgreen:
     
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    How fast was the jet allegedly traveling when it allegedly hit the Pentagon?
     
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    So it was traveling at 777.3 foot per second.

    And all those witnesses were able to inentify it as a Boeing 757.

    Just incredible

    A 230 gr. 45 ACP projectile out of 5 inch barrel travels at about 850fps
     
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    A passenger jet is somewhat bigger than a bullet.
    Plus all of the parts came from AA77.
    Oh, and the DNA of the passengers.
    I should mention the FDR and CVR, as well.
     
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    The list is here:
    http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/PentWitnesses.xls

    It includes:
    136 people who saw the plane approach the Pentagon, and

    104 directly saw the plane hit the Pentagon.

    6 were nearly hit by the plane in front of the Pentagon. Several others were within 100-200 feet of the impact.

    26 mentioned that it was an American Airlines jet.

    39 others mentioned that it was a large jet/commercial airliner.

    2 described a smaller corporate jet. 1 described a "commuter plane" but didn't mention the size.

    7 said it was a Boeing 757.

    8 witnesses were pilots. One witness was an Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower Chief.

    2 witnesses were firefighters working on their truck at the Pentagon heliport.

    4 made radio calls to inform emergency services that a plane had hit the Pentagon.

    10 said the plane's flaps and landing gear were not deployed

    16 mentioned seeing the plane hit light poles/trees, or were next to to the poles when it happened. Another 8 mentioned the light poles being knocked down: it's unknown if they saw them hit.

    42 mentioned seeing aircraft debris. 4 mentioned seeing airline seats. 3 mentioned engine parts.

    2 mentioned bodies still strapped into seats.

    15 mentioned smelling or contacting aviation/jet fuel.

    3 had vehicles damaged by light poles or aircraft debris. Several saw other occupied vehicles damaged.

    3 took photographs of the aftermath.

    Many mentioned false alarm warnings of other incoming planes after the crash. One said "3-4 warnings."

    And of course,

    0 saw a military aircraft or missile strike the Pentagon.

    0 saw a plane narrowly miss the Pentagon and fly away.
     
  16. Patriot911

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    Not all people saw the jet from close up, but even those seeing it for a few seconds would still be able to identify it as a very large, very loud, twin engine airliner and not a bullet/missile/drone/fighter jet. Those seeing it from further away would have absolutely no problem identifying it as an airliner. When you see a jet flying up in the air, it is traveling at hundreds of miles an hour, but unless you're seriously retarded, you should still be able to identify it as a passenger jet and not a bullet/missile/drone/fighter jet.
     
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    The size of anything at distance is a hard thing to judge. We also know the eye can easily be fooled. A perfect example are those large 3D drawings that have been drawn on the street or wall or 3D movies so popular these days

    If a smaller aircraft had been painted to look like an American Airlines jet, it could have been mistaken for a full size aircraft at the speed it was traveling.
     
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    Did the serial numbers match?

    Well it seems the data from the FDR corroborates the testimony provided by those who saw the jet pass to the north of the "offiical" 9/11 BS report.

    There is certainly a discrepency, whether you except it or not, it's a fact.
     
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    The drawings you are talking about need to be viewed at a specific angle, or the "trick" is ruined. Correct perspective is simply projected along this angle to compensate for the angle of the media. If viewed from the correct location, the artist is able to present the brain (not the eye) with an image that it recognizes and interprets. If viewed from the wrong angle, the image looks skewed, stretched, or compressed depending on the location.

    3d movies use polarization to present two different images to each eye individually. That's why you need to wear glasses. 3d movies aren't a trick. They are a way to capture how we actually see 3 dimentions on film.

    If these are your "perfect example(s)" then you need to explain how 2 images were presented to each witnesses' eye separately, or how a skewed perspective image was able to be correctly viewed from multiple angles.

    I think your premise is impossible given your "perfect example(s)". I think you don't know how light works. But I'll read what you have to say about it anyway.
     
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    You're saying they took the FDR out of the aircraft that flew to the north, planted it in the rubble, but did not correct the data?

    That doesn't make any sense.
     
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    Except several of the witnesses were pilots from RIA and correctly identified the make and model of the aircraft.
     
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    And the DNA too...don't forget that.
     
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    Hey, Scott. How many of your 2 - 13 witnesses then saw the plane flying away? Or are you going to pretend the plane continued on at a low enough level they couldn't see it? But then, of course, you have to explain how a 757 flying at very low level at high speed can go over a major metropolitan area without a single person noticing. :lol:
     
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    Nope, not saying that.

    Saying the FDR shows one thing, "official" BS report says another.

    You figure it out
     
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    The brain can be fooled through the eyes, you know it and I know it.

    That's right, 3D is not a trick, but what is projected on the screen is NOT a
    3D object.

    An American Airlines paint scheme is all that is needed to fool a majority of witnesses.
     
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