Pentagon will send more than 50 F-35s to Europe to deter Russia

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  1. gnoib

    gnoib Well-Known Member

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    He is.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sure they are - but they are not the Russian Military - in the way the nonsense narrative is trying to portray.
     
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    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    Yes, pound for pound, Russian mercs are better than regular armed forces. They are there at their own will and are paid pretty good money.
     
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    Yeah I don't need therapy.....check out Dmitry Utkin on wiki.....that'll put into perspective. And I am correct, I don't need silly pics.

    Many/most of the Wagner's former Russki special ops or even current.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your claim that some Russian Mercs were the Russian Army is patent nonsense. You have been corrected on this numerous times - yet still pretend otherwise ... something is wrong with this picture.
     
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    Umm, no , it's only you that seems to try to correct, and there's really nothing wrong with the picture. Pretty much everyone else I talked with agrees on this and the fact is ...is that you're justprobably sore that a crapload of Russki Mercs/servicemen got good and schwacked.....and all one hears is crickets from the Kremlin.:D
     
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    Was not the Russian Army - as you were desperately trying to suggest - all one hears from you is "Russia - Russia - Russia"
     
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    No. But I have serious doubts that regular Russian Army troops would be significantly more effective than they were. Though they would have some halfway decent tanks.
     
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    Its not about the troops - it is about the firepower available.
     
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    I don't know, I'm not the prophet. The only thing I know, that no country in history staid strong forever.

    Ok, if US territories in Pacific (in this time Philipiens too) are overseas then yes. But if you would abandon even this, it does not mean than Enemy would not come closer to You.
    And After US left world politic, world had seen japanies agression, rise of totalalitarian states in Euroup, what led to war in wich US was forced to intrveen. You realy want to go this road again? Last time there was 500 000 wictims for US and 60 million for World, this time can be much more.

    Sorry, where exactly in the Eastern Europe, US now are spending billions of dollars? I think you have a wrong information... And average American benefits of stability in the world, where American companies as do business. When you will leave, all this will came to the end.
     
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    Could be, German knights raped poles for hundreds of years. Some of them now look like us.
     
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    The mess the backpackers make here is more of a problem....hope you dont come back
     
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    Read your own posts. By denying Russia's aggression in Georgia and Ukraine - which fits in with the longer pattern of Moscow's flagrant disrespect for other countries' sovereignty, territory and freedom over the past century - you're arguing that Russia is allowed to invade other countries with impunity, thus refuting your own assertion. Clearly, you don't believe your claim any more than I do.

    Since the subject of this thread is deterring Moscow's actual invasions and revanchist aggression one would expect people to spend more energy discussing and condemning them, just as one would expect the Kremlin's apologists to try and change the subject and deflect discussion and criticism elsewhere.

    If your strong objections to invasions and aggression were sincere you wouldn't attempt to 1) minimize and/or negate Russia's litany of invasions and aggression and 2) deflect the discussion and criticism of them elsewhere.

    FYI, when I care to express my objection to any invasion or aggression committed by the U.S. government I do so in a thread that is focused on that subject and not the litany of invasions and aggressions committed by the Russian government. Not only am I capable of discussing and judging any particular government and its actions based on their own merits I'm capable of doing so in the appropriate venue.
     
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    "Was not Russian army"!?!....:smile:....no it's just some average vatnik schmuck deciding it's cool to play "Merc",LOL.


    Russia...Russia....Russia....why not?

    All I read here is USA bashing? But hey it's lonely being the champ!:D
     
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    LOL I'm sure it is lonely being a champion in your own mind -but not in the minds of others.
     
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    Champ, of what ?
     
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    Its not a secret, that the Russian military has a problem with serious mobbing of its lower ranks, which creates a motivation and moral problem.
     
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    Not in lower ranks, but in mandatory draft by those, who serve longer time, those, who come lately in never ending circle. But those who fight in Syria are professional soldiers
     
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    Yup.....being the sole superpower and largest economy can be a lonely job.....but somebody's got to do it.

    We usually reserve time slots for those 3 AM phone calls everytime there's a global bonfire that needs putting out. And there will be further calls.
     
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    Tweaking Putin's fanboys. :smile:

    Too bad you never met our old Lithuanian buddy Litwin. He introduced us to the vatnik memes that are popular over in Russia and Eastern Europe...

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    You did not answer the question
     
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    "Peace" and "Russia" really shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence.....ask Ukraine &Georgia about Russki Mir?
     
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    I did, but zoom may have a different answer for you.
     
  25. gnoib

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    You still did not answer the question, why don't you ?
     

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