Planned Parenthood official: Docs alter abortion procedures, price structure

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  1. Wake_Up

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    A Planned Parenthood official admits abortion procedures -- and prices -- are adjusted to accommodate specific fetal tissue requests, including “intact fetal cadavers,” in the fifth and latest undercover video released Tuesday by a pro-life group targeting the nonprofit.

    In the nearly 16-minute, edited video released by Center for Medical Progress, a woman identified as Melissa Farrell, director of research for Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, discusses pricing for specimens -- ranging from intact fetuses to tissue and organs -- for outside tissue procurement companies.

    “Yeah, and so if we alter our process, and we are able to obtain intact fetal cadavers, then we can make it part of the budget, that any dissections are this, and splitting the specimens into different shipments is this,” Farrell said. “I mean it’s all just a matter of line items.”

    "If we alter our process, and we are able to obtain intact fetal cadavers, then we can make it part of the budget"

    - Melissa Farrell, Planned Parenthood official

    Altering abortion procedures to procure fetal tissue, delivering intact fetuses and selling fetal tissue for profit are all against federal law.

    GRAPHIC CONTENT: Click to see latest undercover Planned Parenthood video

    Planned Parenthood has denied breaking any laws and has said payments discussed in the videos relates to reimbursement costs for procuring the tissue -- which is legal.

    However, Farrell tells undercover investigators from the center multiple times that abortion doctors can change a procedure in order to procure intact specimens.

    “And you know, when it matters, you know in the cases of when it’s mattered, you know, physicians also need an intact specimen, they can make it happen,” said Farrell, noting that some of the clinic’s doctors have research projects of their own for which they’re collecting specimens.

    “So they do it in a way that they get the best specimens,” Farrell said. “So I know it can happen.”

    CMP has been the target of two restraining orders by federal judges banning them from releasing some of their recordings. The orders, however, have so far been limited to videos made at meetings of the National Abortion Federation and those dealing with a tissue procurement company, StemExpress.

    Tuesday’s release, purely reliant on video taken inside a Planned Parenthood clinic, would not seem to violate either order.

    At the end of the video, CMP investigators film a segment in what they say is the abortion clinic’s pathological laboratory. Farrell and two unidentified Planned Parenthood workers demonstrate the “quality” of fetal body parts, including intact arms, legs, lungs, intestines and eyeballs.

    The CMP investigators ask to see any intact specimens, but one of the unidentified female workers begins laughing.

    “We had a really long day and they’re all mixed up together in a bag,” she says.

    The “Just a Matter of Line Items” video is the fifth release from CMP. Like the first four, it contains undercover video of Planned Parenthood officials and associates.

    The videos have brought investigations of Planned Parenthood's policies on aborted fetuses by three Republican-led congressional committees and three states.

    The Senate failed Monday evening to advance a Republican-led measure to halt federal aid to Planned Parenthood. The vote to bring debate on the bill was 53-46, shy of the 60 votes needed to move on.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/0...tion-procedures-price-structure/?intcmp=hpbt1


    Sadly this is just business as usual for some.

    Our elected officials, at least some of them, appear to be OK with this.

    But hey, don't you dare shoot a lion now!
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Would you prefer the aborted fetus just go in the trash?
     
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    I'd prefer they followed State and Federal laws. This video makes it pretty damn blatant that they are doing it for profit.
     
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    The preference is that we stop using Federal tax dollars to fund these scumbags.
     
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    Unpopular opinion time.


    So what? Might as well make some money. Heck, an above poster wants them to stop using federal funds. So start selling fetal parts to make up the difference.
     
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    Maybe, but not with my tax dollars subsidizing them.
     
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    unless it's a video of their financial books then that's unlikely to be true.

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    That proposal failed yesterday, but it's nice to dream I guess
     
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    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, like I said. Let them profit from selling the parts to make up the difference in removing tax dollars.
     
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    I also would rather see them being utilized instead of going into the trash. However, with human greed that way it is, I do not think it is wise to allow people to profit from harvesting human body parts, whether fetal or not. Anytime someone can see a way to become rich from something, it abused the system. What would be next? Having people intentionally get pregnant and have abortions so that more parts can be harvested? Applying more pressure to young girls to abort? Unauthorized abortions in order to harvest parts?
     
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    What is meant about "alter the procedure" is to spend the money to do a ultrasound to map the woman's body to ensure all the locations. This "alteration" actually enhances the woman safety.

    Gee, doing ultrasounds! The procedure that the Republicans are FORCING to women to do that the Republicans do NOT pay for!
     
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    Why do people care about the holocaust?
     
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    I am fine with them functioning without tax dollars, and in accordance with all State and Federal law. If the voters want them in this hideous business, then let them decide.
     
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    Could be. I am OK with folks selling a kidney if they want to. I am not a fan of abortion, much less the selling of fetal tissue. But if it is legal, especially where voted upon by citizens (and not SCOTUS), then I am for the Law.
     
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    The best part is that it's going to medical research, which I'm not sure why people oppose so vehemently. With the reaction of the right you'd think aborted fetus' were being sold to restaurants or turned into ashtrays.
     
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    "The footage released today doesn’t show Planned Parenthood staff engaged in any wrongdoing or agreeing to violate any legal or medical standards. Instead, the latest tape shows an extremely offensive intrusion and lack of respect for women, with footage of medical tissue in a lab," Dawn Laguens, executive vice president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America said in a statement.

    "The latest tape has at least 20 substantial and unexplained edits. Previous tapes released by this extremist group were heavily edited in order to distort what the people on the tapes actually said. These videos are intended to shock and deceive the public."

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...s-another-video-attacking-planned-parenthood/
     
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    Joseph Mengele did research too.....

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    kinda like concentration camp footage?
     
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    You really need to ramp up the Nazi tourettes.

    You're slackin'.
     
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    Well, explain the difference to me, cause I dont see any.

    Jews were just as unwanted by the nazis as unborn babies are to planned parenthood.
     
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    You're right, guess we should stop all medical research because we don't want to be like the nazis :roll:
     
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    True. There is always going to be nefarious purposes in any given situation. But if people didn't do anything because their was a possibility of corruption, then nothing would ever get done. The idea is to find ways to circumvent that.


    I dunno, maybe ask in a thread that is in any way related to the holocaust?

    I think that as long as they can prove that the tax dollars they receive are not put towards abortions, then problem solved.
     
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    Thats your excuse for harvesting humans? :roll:
     
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    I have seen no proof that altering procedures to procure tissue or provide an intact fetus is a crime according to federal law, so I'd like a link to that because I do believe it is a lie. Reason for that is I believe PP officials have already stated that they will do that and haven't been arrested. It is illegal, however, to sell those tissues for profit, something that PP has NOT done despite all of the loud assertions from the right that they do. Once again, you can bellow a lie as often as you like, but it's still a lie.
     
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    you know exactly what I mean.

    We have obamacare, the only service planned parenthood provides that hospitals dont, are abortions.

    case closed.
     
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    Of course they sell dead babies for profit.

    Theyre subsidized by the federal government, and they get paid for the abortion procedure.
     
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    1. Nobody is "harvesting humans" despite whatever you believe.

    2. Abortions will occur whether they are legal or not.

    3. There was bipartisan support (including Mitch and some of his gang) for the law that allowed voluntary harvesting of tissue and other samples from aborted fetuses.

    4. We are reaping major benefits from this and it would be even more if the ignorant on the right would get some education.
     

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