Point of view. A look from the other side.

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  1. Balancer

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    Russia has long been accustomed to the fact that no matter how severe a terrorist act has occurred, no one will express their support as it does with other countries. Of course, there are many official condolences. And for that, thank you. But the eye always cuts such a difference in relation to:

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    The more touching the support that the Tel Aviv Municipality expressed against this background.

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    And in America there can be only one correct opinion? I look at the communication on the forum and I see that many would like this one. One America. One nation. One opinion ... Somewhere I have already heard it ...
     
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    Social networks make us, often further apart. But sometimes, on the contrary, they show how close and tight this world is. This girl was yesterday morning on her social network page. And the day from her was only a memory ...

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    Yesterday the media managed to blame terrorism for nothing innocent. They saw an unknown person in Muslim clothes and hastened to be called a terrorist.

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    It turned out that this is an innocent citizen. Who, immediately after learning about the charge, himself came to the police.

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    Now there is new data. Still not official, but much more reliable. This young man made an explosion. The suicide bomber. They write that they come from Central Asia, with Russian citizenship.

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    Two entities scared of each other heading rapidly toward destruction Sadly it would seem, that the past leads only to the past and the Chinese are right history is circular rather than linear.
     
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    “If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by.”

    Sun Tzu

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    But so will the bodies of your friends and they might come first.
     
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    The Chinese are an interesting people. I watched several new Chinese films about the Second World War several times. For example, "Yip Man". Invasion of the Japanese, they perceive as some kind of natural disaster. You can not do anything with him. It itself arises from nowhere.Then it disappears as well. The main thing is to wait until the enemies themselves leave :)
     
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    Yes. And this is the moment in which the Russian worldview does not coincide with the Chinese one :) We have a saying - "You can perish, but you must help a friend!" ("Die yourself, but help out your friend!")
     
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    More like those values don't align to what you want America to be. It seems like leftist really are neo-nazi's as they can't wait for a one world government with "socialism" while people who disagree with get a yellow mark with the words "bigot" or "racist" on them to then be hauled off by train's to "reeducation" camps. 1984 should be the democrat's calling card.

    If we end up going to war with Russia because they haven't bought in to all of the globalist BS then I will be long gone and watch my home land turn to glass thanks to the stupidity of DC/MSM and Democrat's.

    The left was the counter culture, but now with gen Z the right is now the prime counter culture to the establishment in the US that being education, media/news, the courts and other non elected part's of government.

    I don't want the US paying for NATO any longer as really the US gains zero from it and pays a crap load into it.
     
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    But it would be better if you can manage it so that both of you live. The current downward spiral in relations between what is loosely called the West and Russia is, in the end, good for neither of us. Here's a question for you do Putin's actions remind you more of Lenin or of Peter the Great?
     
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    Is the profit, for example, from arms contracts concluded with America just because of NATO's influence does not compensate for the cost of NATO?

    Russia only intervened in the war in Syria, but the costs of this war were already compensated by the subsequent contracts for a well-proven weapon. In my opinion, contracts worth $ 8 billion were already concluded.

    For example, the American F-35. It would hardly be bought if the US had no influence through NATO.
     
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    Peace is always better than war. And Russia is always ready to meet in this matter. Russia remembers very well how wars are devastating.

    Putin does not resemble either Peter or Lenin. They were revolutionaries who broke the old system and created new things. Putin is just a cunning politician who skillfully uses the political situation to strengthen and improve the existing system.
     
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    But he governs much in the style of Peter, much more so than Lenin, Everything from the shirtless appearances to the horseback riding smacks of Peter the Great. The only difference of course is that he's actually about a half a foot or so shorter. Peter was a larger than life character, Putin is trying for the same, there are worse models in Russian history he could emulate.
     
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    Do you think that the degree of similarity is determined only by external attributes? :) Alas, I believe that similarity is more important in actions and consequences. In Putin, with Peter, in general, in my opinion, only that both strengthened the Russian army. But most of the famous Russian politicians were involved in this.) In the rest, there is nothing in common between them. Peter was a big admirer of the West, he forcibly planted Western culture in Russia, rebuilt the entire Russian statehood in the spirit of the West. He tried, as far as he could, to destroy the old Russian culture. He even reformed Orthodoxy so much that it was called the Antichrist. Putin in his policy, on the contrary, relies on tradition, tries to build an independent state based on his own history. This is a fundamentally opposite approach than that of Peter.
     
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    Excuse me, I could not find a sneak. Is the forum already somewhere a topic where they discuss the CIA tools opened by Wikileaks? Where is the primitive masking "like the Russians" used?

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    But much of that tradition was created, for better or worse by Peter. Both were expansionist, and at heart Russian Patriots. Peter came to a Russia that was economically, and technologically backward, his goal wasn't to remake Russia in the West's image but to make it competitive with other European countries. That striving, in the centuries since, has been a dominant theme in Russian culture.
     
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    I agree that both tried to make Russia stronger. But I do not agree with the fact that Peter tried to make Russia special, different from the West. Peter, just, was famous for trying to make a literal copy of Europe. Up to the fact that forcibly injected smoking or shaving his beard :)
     
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    Against the backdrop of constant political scandals around the Olympics, the World Cup or Eurovision, there is a strong lack of any political coloring around the forthcoming Formula 1 race in Sochi at the end of the month :)
     
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    Ukraine demand the organizers of Eurovision to stop interfering in the internal affairs of Ukraine:

    Members of the Board of JSC "National Public Public Broadcasting Company of Ukraine" (JSC "NSTU") issued a public statement in response to a letter from Director General European Broadcasting Union Ingrid Deltenre the Prime Minister of Ukraine Vladimir Groisman.

    The statement particularly says that Ukraine represented by JSC "NSTU" (earlier - NTU, NRCU) is a long-term member of the European Broadcasting Union, active and law-abiding member of the contest "Eurovision", and Ukrainian participants in a contest "Eurovision", always all respect the laws and regulations of the country-mistress.

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    President of Ukraine Poroshenko issued a decree on ceasefire in the Donbass from April 1.

    Over the past day, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have violated the cease-fire regime 51 times. In total, twenty-eight settlements of the Republic underwent firing on the part of the APU, which used mortars of various caliber, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, antiaircraft guns, grenade launchers and small arms.
     
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    I do not know whether this news was covered in the Western media or not, but in Russia it is quite noisy.

    All engines of the second and third stages of the "Proton" were defective

    All previously produced engines RD-0210/0211 and RD-0213/0214, intended for installation on the second and third stages of the Proton-M rocket, will be re-assembled. This is the general director of the Scientific and Production Association "Energomash" Igor Arbuzov told RIA Novosti.

    "According to the" Protons ", this is 71 engine, or almost the entire reserve for the second and third stages. At present, the schedule of work is signed, a significant part of them will be held in 2017, but we understand that some part will inevitably move to 2018, "he said. The first deliveries of the repaired units will begin in May.

    Arbuzov noted that it was necessary "not to frustrate the schedule of launches for the Federal Space Program, launches in the interests of the Russian Defense Ministry and commercial launches," and "to ensure the necessary reserve for meeting the schedule for the delivery of new crews and cargo to the International Space Station."
     
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    Governor of the Leningrad Region (Saint Petersburg) after the explosion went to work on the metro .

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    As I expected earlier:

     
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    Probably has to do with the fact that there aren't much more than a hundred k people in the world that follow formula one racing. And a third of them are picketers worried that this needless expenditure of fossil fuels is going to destroy the planet.
     

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