Police Arrest Alabama Pastor for ( No Joke) Watering Flowers

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  1. Izzy

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    What don't you get?
    He gave them his name and where he lived along with telling them what he was doing on the property, which was obvious.
    The "obstruction charges were DROPPED.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    He wasn't on HIS private property. A grocery store is private property, but if a cop is conducting an investigation and asks for ID, do you really think you can tell him to get ****ed?
     
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    Yah except you have the law wrong


    2006 Alabama Code - Section 15-5-30 — Authority of peace officer to stop and question.
    A sheriff or other officer acting as sheriff, his deputy or any constable, acting within their respective counties, any marshal, deputy marshal or policeman of any incorporated city or town within the limits of the county or any highway patrolman or state trooper may stop any person abroad in a public place whom he reasonably suspects is committing, has committed or is about to commit a felony or other public offense and may demand of him his name, address and an explanation of his actions.

    cops had no legal basis to demand his ID. To be fair, like most cops, they probably don’t know the law either.
     
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  4. The Mello Guy

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    Yes, yes you can. It’s a 4th amendment violation.
     
  5. The Mello Guy

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    And they can only demand that with reasonable suspicion, which watering plants isn’t
     
  6. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Not if there's probable cause.
     
  7. The Mello Guy

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    That’s just false, law posted
     
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    They were responding to a call. He wasn't on HIS property. The cops were well within their authority to demand proof of identity.
     
  9. The Mello Guy

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    And watering plants doesn’t give them that. Only crime they could remotely have is trespassing, and the property owner would have to press the issue, not a neighbor.
     
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    Not at all. Cops can’t go up to anyone they want on private property and demand ID.
     
  11. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    You're misinterpreting the law. Being on private property doesn't immunize you from being questioned by a cop...lol
     
  12. The Mello Guy

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    There’s also no law that requires a private citizen to assist in their investigation.
     
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    They can question all they want. Nobody said otherwise. They can’t make you ID under threat of arrest without a crime.
     
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    They can, if they have probable cause...lol. You people have totally misunderstood how things work in the real world.
     
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    They can, if there's probable cause.
     
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    They didn’t have probably cause! The neighbor not knowing him isn’t proof any crime occurring.
     
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    Which they didn’t have. I hope he sues.
     
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    There's a law that prohibits obstruction of justice.
     
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    I can't wait to watch his dumb ass lose the suit...lol
     
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    There’s a right to remain silent and a right to not give your info.
     
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    That's only if you could will incriminate yourself...lol.

    If you are a witness to a crime, you have a legal obligation to answer the officer's questions. Refusing to do so is obstruction.
     
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    Again, there was no crime.
     
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    There was reasonable suspicion.
     
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    Of what crime? What crime does watering plants cause reasonable suspicion of??!
     
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    MADISON, Wis. (WMTV) - A federal judge ruled Wednesday that two Monona Police Department officers’ actions during the brief detainment of a Black man who they thought was trespassing in a home in June of 2020 was a “clear-cut” violation of the man’s Fourth Amendment right. The judge stated, however, that he did not believe the officers’ actions were with malice.
     
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