Poll: Americans don't believe Trump has received the message from the midterms

9.8 million margin of victory in the house. That is the single worst defeat for any party in US history.

That is massive.

The fact that democrats did not stay put on the senate or gain seats is because they faced the arguably worst Senate distribution in US history too with 26 seats on the chopping block, 10 in states won by trump.

It is evidence that a blue wave took place instead of a blue tsunami.

 

Actually did American politics as part of my degree. Perhaps you should value my opinion as an outsider? Welcome them in fact. The Tea Party is the millstone around the Dems neck much as the Tea Party is for the GOP, its' excesses scare off the moderate voters who Trump won over, much as Reagan did in the 80s, they way for Dems to win back the mainstream is not to drift to the extremes.

 

Your BLOTUS did not "win over" moderates. His only loyal base is the extremist right. He combined those with evangelicals and the gullible who he BS'ed regarding his celebrity status. He actually LOST the popular vote and it was only because of GOP voter suppression and gerrymandering in PA, WI and Michigan that he managed to game the EC. All three of those states were swung by turning out less educated white males using dog-whistles at his rabble rousing rallies.

To equate your BLOTUS with St Reagan exposes how little you do know about American politics. On top of that you imagine that the Dems must "win back the mainstream" and "not to drift to the extremes". That is the FAILED dogma of Establishment Dems and it was soundly REBUKED by the Progressives in the Modterms.

The fallacy that the "mainstream voters" are actually "mainstream" is farcical. Instead it is DISINFORMATION being used to DISCOURAGE and DEPRESS voter turnout. What you refer to as "mainstream" are nothing more than moderates who are DISGUSTED with both parties but who tend to lean more right than left. However they ALL fall into the bracket of "likely voters".

The genuine mainstream are those who DO NOT VOTE!

It was those voters that the Progressives successfully targeted and turned out at the polls in 2018. They set up an entirely new group of voters who want a different America to the one current under the malign rule of the Wall Street Casino Bosses.

The Dems have the best shot at recruiting these new voters as long as the embrace the message and the policies of the Progressives. If the Establishment Dems crush the Progressives they will lose in 2020 and deservedly so. However the Progressives have no intention of allowing themselves to be crushed and are fighting hard for what they believe in.

 

Not my Blotus, Progressives are the equivalent of drinking seawater for the Dems. The extreme right must be very numerous indeed if they were able to put Trump in the Whitehouse? When they had all voted for Obama before?

 

Asinine non sequitur without any shred of credible substance whatsoever.

 

No, you're just ducking my question. The people who put Trump in the Whitehouse had voted for Obama in the 2 previous elections. People voted for Trump to prick the bubble of Progressives who think they know what's right for the country and shout down anyone who disagrees with them. The extreme right are a tiny and insignificant faction and Dems have got to stop thinking that's all they're up against and try to win back the mainstream.

 

They did in 2018. In record setting numbers. Even while trump's base was very active in the midterms. The lesson was very simple: His base is not enough.

And yet trump has reacted by doubling down on an all base, all the time strategy. His approval ratings are dipping lower. His disapproval ratings are going higher.

You keep saying that Democrats need to move towards the middle, but the middle is moving towards Democrats.

 

Onus is entirely on YOU to prove that fallacy of yours.

Obama voters supported Hillary, not your beloved BLOTUS!

 

We shall see, if that is the case then why did the Blue Wave not reach expectations? You're right that Trump cannot just rely on his base but then his base didn't bring him to power, it was the mainstream. I would say in return that the DNC cannot just rely on vocal anti-Trumpers, they have to appeal to the ordinary voter.

 

Not my beloved anything. Do tell me why Trump won the oh so vital rust belt which Hilary hadn't even visited, taking them for granted? Come on, stop screaming at the sky, embrace reality.

 

Ironic PROJECTION of your own failures duly noted for the record!

Your BLOTUS was the beneficiary of the GOP gerrymandering, voter suppression and Russian campaign against Hillary.

Since then he has LOST those THREE KEY STATES and has no way to regain them.

The onus is entirely on you to EMBRACE THAT REALITY and explain how your beloved BLOTUS games the EC in 2020 without PA, WI and MI?

 

The DNC gerrymandered too, there was no voter suppression (checking voters aren't dead or aren't convicted felons isn't 'suppression', it's verification) and the Russian campaign had virtually no effect, it didn't cause Hilary to call people deplorables or say her environmental policies would make the rust belt very unhappy. These states may have flipped for the midterms but we'll see when it comes to the Presidential election.

 

Typical BLOTUS supporter kneejerk denialism duly noted for the record and ignored for obvious reasons.

 

You mean you have no comeback?

 

Your failure to provide a substantive response is NOT my problem.

 

You mean you have no comeback?

 

None was required because YOU FAILED to provide a substantive response!

That is YOUR problem, not mine.

 

Believe me, I don't have a problem

 

Wrong on BOTH counts!

 

How?