Poll: Do Bernie or Busters bear any responsibility for Trump's win? (hear me out before voting)

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Do Bernie or Busters bear any responsibility for Trumps win?

  1. Yes, they made a big difference

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  2. Yes, but the difference they made was small

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  3. No, they made no difference

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  1. Chester_Murphy

    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Romney? ew........He messed up Mass with RomneyCare, which was adopted by Obama to purchase votes. What a great deal that was. huh?
     
  2. btthegreat

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    Got proof of the 'hit' being planned? Got proof that the 'hit' was initiated. Got proof that the 'hit' impacted on any election results? Got proof that the impact was broad enough to impact lots of states where he lost by a sufficient margin to change the primary result?

    You got anything but trolling and conspiracy theories on this issue because I'd like to see it. All I have seen is some biased staff senting memos around on how bad a candidate he is and one memo offering up an idea in Tennessee to use his religion in some adverts, THAT WAS NOT IMPLEMENTED. and a horrible loan deal, by which Clinton helped fund the DNC efforts. No evidence yet of a quid pro quo or that she controlled where that money was spent and that she used it to her advantage and that results altered enough primaries and caucuses.. I want to a plan, its execution and its impact shown.
     
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    First you have to link to those polls, but I saw some during the primaries and even in the election, which Sanders tried to make hay out of, but you are talking about a candidacy that never got a single attack ad from the right at all. Trump was busy fluffing up Sanders candidacy, not taking him down, because the longer Sanders was in the race the more he compromised Clinton and then afterwords he was busing exploiting and flaming the divisiveness in the party. As for Clinton, she could not afford to go after Sanders aggressively because she needed those voters in the fall. Honestly Sanders got really generous press and very little vetting so the gloves never came off in those contests. You can't think that the GOP and Trump wasn't going to use that socialist label to crush him. Now if you happen to be a socialist, you might think America was ready to vote the guy in, but nobody else thinks that.
     
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  4. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Ironic - but classically Clintonist - that having destroyed the one candidate that could beat Trump, the Clinton Mafia & its allies blame the victims of their crimes for their crimes.

    But Hillary always did love watching/excusing/cheerleading gang rape; it's her kink.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Just a bunch of polls, yeah.

    Sanders would have crushed Trump, but the deranged Clintonists and their criminal cronies were too busy destroying Sanders and their own party, and helping Trump win.

    But of course it's everyone else's fault; no lesson learned; crime pays when you're a Clinton. :)
     
  6. btthegreat

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    You are a weird poster. Sometimes you are reasonable etc; sometimes you troll.
     
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Well, you know - sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't. :party:
     
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    Of course it always temporizers almost always lose and not infrequently get hammered. People generally vote for a plan even a bad one over a campaign, of name calling, and whining. Oh God he's awful is not a plan. Neither was more of the same.
    You should recall that these same polls had it 90% likely that Hillary would be our President. Has anyone done a study yet to determine the impact of people's greatly enhanced ability to screen their own calls has effected the ability of pollsters to do their jobs?
     

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