Portland shooting leaves 1 dead as pro-Trump group clashes with BLM

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  1. LogNDog

    LogNDog Well-Known Member

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    They are losing the black vote and it's still early.
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    "Anti gay marriage..."

    It's opinion to say that opposition to calling legally sanctioned unions "marriages" is anti-homosexual.

    I disagree.

    "...attempts to allow businesses to deny services to gay people..."

    That is a totally fraudulent claim. It's been as completely debunked as the "very fine people" and "collusion with RUSSIA!" false claims.

    "...fighting lgbtq+ rights in the military..."

    Yet another false claim.

    Only the "T" part of that acronym has opposition, in the military. There is sound reasoning behind the decision. To the extent possible, it is a rational choice to wish to keep the mentally disabled out of a disciplined fighting force.
     
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    Yes, I understand.

    My potential disagreement was with the phrase "it got out of control". I'm not sure that is the case.

    Maybe you're right. I just think that Democrats were OK with what had been happening, until they couldn't deny that their efforts to shape public opinion were failing; that the polling could not be denied.
     
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    Will this political assassin be charged with a hate crime in conjunction with his hit on the victim? Clearly he targeted the victim due to his political views and nothing else. That chills lawful political speech and debate.
     
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    Will he become the George Floyd of the Right:
     
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    Comparing an American killed in cold blood to a drug induced criminal....

    Only in America folks.
     
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    I don't care who you are; that's funny.

    The only question is whether, or not, it was intentionally so.
     
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    It just occurred to me Danielson's death could be exploited by the Right the way Floyd's has been exploited by the Left.
     
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    I blame trump, because this is all occurring under his leadership. His tone, his rhetoric is feeding and keeping the protests and riots alive.
    It's his campaign strategy. Part of his tough on crime campaign. So he keeps instigating groups like the Proud Boys to show up at protests to cause trouble.
     
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    I can't imagine how that could be possible.
     
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    Yeah. I want reparations....and a free 60" flat-screen TV.
     
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    Think BIG. Anything you want from Target? It's yours for the taking!
     
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    Black people can't be upset because many of their men were thrown in prison for minor crimes for the last 25 years, thanks to Joe Biden. How many black children in their 20's today didn't know their daddy because Biden's crime bill threw them in jail for a quarter century?

    Today's grievances can't be what happened in America's past. Must be Trump's fault.

    What crime or police reform bills were written under Obama/Biden. Eight years to do something. Why do I here crickets chirruping all of a sudden?

     
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    I'm not really optimistic:
     
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    The Portland city council just stripped 15 million from the police because they are the problem. Now Brown is looking to the police as the solution. It seems very conflicted.
     
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    They though BLM would help win elections, plus donations to BLM are funding many Democrat candidate campaigns. Now that they can't keep hiding the blood, death and violence associated with the "peaceful protests", Democrats are losing to Republicans in the polls. Now Democrats are deciding police are pretty good after all. Pretty shameful to put citizens' safety and lives at risk for three months to win an election. Politics before people.
     
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    When Muslims say that democracy is blasphemy I don’t know why we can’t take them at their word.
     
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    Just like Democrats have been defending the most violent of rioters/looters, they are also choosing to prop up the violent element of Muslims within the Islamic-American community.

    Democrats are showing their worst ugly face; the party appears to be broken. Masks off! They've lost touch with any majority opinion of Americans on the left or the right. Everything is "divide and conquer" by trying to mainstream the extreme fringes.

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    "With the real diversity that exists among American Muslims, there is surely no shortage of peaceful and freedom-loving American Muslims who are eligible to represent our community at national political events like the Democratic National Convention (DNC). Yet the DNC, time and again, has preferred to perennially prop up radical voices from the Islamist establishment and give them a platform to spread their theocratic, anti-Western, anti-Semitic rhetoric. This year's convention proved to be no different."

    https://www.newsweek.com/dncs-deepening-embrace-radical-islamists-opinion-1527239
     
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    Of course it is, that dems answer to literally everything... "We just need more of OPM (Other People's Money), that'll take care of everything. And then we'll fix it." Except they never fix it, it's too valuable as a future campaign issue.
     
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    What people don’t understand about Islam is that it teaches that the faith cannot be separated from any part of the adherent’s life and that includes government.
    I think the Democrats have been on enough of a roll with having the bounty of this virus (political gold for them) and the Floyd killing that they are now overplaying their hand by blaming the riots on Trump and Americans simply are not buying it this time. I suspect the Dems might have to backtrack on this one before Election Day.
     
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    It's been longer than 25 yrs ago.
    The war on drugs was started in the 1980s by Nancy Reagan.

    It's been a failure and does need to stop.

    Obama didn't do enough.

    Obama emphasized the need for unity and stressed that supporting criminal justice reform should not be viewed as an attack against law enforcement. He said he recognizes that police officers “have a dangerous job” and “make split-second decisions.”

    “To be concerned about these issues is not to be against law enforcement,” he said.

    Obama called on Americans to urge their local police departments to implement the reforms suggested by a task force he commissioned last year to examine the use of force by police officers. He also lauded bipartisan legislation in Congress on criminal justice reform. But he stressed that the repeated incidents over the last few years have indicated a greater need for action.
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/barack-obama-police-brutality_n_577ed1ede4b0c590f7e8af19

    So far, no one has done enough.
     
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    Defund ... random person on street?
     
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    That is funny.
     
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    Trump isn't.
    At best.
    On his good days.
    I'm no doubt being far too kind.

    Do you? Don't post this way to me. Irrelevant, but true; that some see it as a damnable thing reveals far about them than any Trump supporter.
     
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    Complete nonsense. Yes. Irrelevant nonsense.
     

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