PP "harvesting" fetuses up to 22 weeks

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  1. Trinnity

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    Harvesting means selling. That isn't legal. Don't parse words, what they're doing is wrong and there will be a backlash over this - it's already happening.
     
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    There are other methods, IUD (very very effective), condoms (male and female types), deppo shot, vaginal ring, Norplant, diaphragm, tubal ligation, and of course abstinence. Even the rhythm method can work - avoid sex during a week around ovulation; it's not rocket science. The morning after pill is available for emergencies and can be bought at a pharmacy or obtained at a health department.

    As for intolerance of hormones, only 5% have that problem. You're presenting excuses for the biggest reason women get abortions - LAZINESS. Call it apathy if you like. It's all the same.
     
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    So they use abortion as their preferred method of BC ?? :no:
     
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    No, "harvesting" means removal:

    c : to remove or extract (as living cells, tissues, or organs) from culture or from a living or recently deceased body especially for transplanting
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/harvest


    Is organ donation wrong?
     
  5. diamond lil

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    Well, so what? People should be more careful when crossing the road, but we don't lobby to refuse medical care for any injuries they may sustain if they aren't

    People are fallible. Mistakes happen.
     
  6. FoxHastings

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    What???....Was that some kind of attempt at a point?


    The ONLY numbers that matter are the numbers that say the number of abortions equals the number of women who want one.

    They are not rationed out to meet some magical number so that it isn't another number...:roll:
     
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    Call it anything you like, it doesn't matter , abortion is legal ....and misogyny will never change that :)
     
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    Yes it is Legal, so long as the payments are not profit but going into operating costs, you might want to read up on the issue before proving you do not have the facts on your side.
     
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    I've no doubt you will say it again....and again and again :yawn:, it will be no more accurate the last time you say it than it was the first.

    How many were paid for by federal money?

    How fortunate for you and the rest of the world that you were one of the lucky ones.
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Madam, I have been a farmer's daughter and a farmer's wife for more...well, a very long time. Harvesting does not mean selling. Grain in the bin is harvested, but not sold.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/04/opinions/louis-planned-parenthood/

    That last part -- the claim that Planned Parenthood "sells the body parts of aborted babies," the centerpiece of the whole multi-year effort -- is flat-out untrue, and the lie is exposed by the Center's own undercover videos. Anyone who doubts this should plow through the transcripts of the conversations on the video. More on that in a moment.
     
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    What a specious argument.
     
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    4 Planned Parenthood clinics in Florida caught breaking the law
    http://twitchy.com/2015/08/06/4-pl...tweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter


    From the AP:
    Three of the 16 Planned Parenthood facilities inspected in Florida last week were performing procedures beyond their licensing authority, and one facility was not keeping proper logs relating to fetal remains, officials announced Wednesday.

    The Agency for Health Care Administration released a report saying clinics in St. Petersburg, Fort Myers and Naples were performing second-trimester abortions when they were only licensed to perform first-trimester abortions. The report also found that a Pembroke Pines clinic was not following its own procedures for the labeling and dating of the disposal of fetal remains.

    Florida Alliance of Planned Parenthood Affiliates Executive Director Laura Goodhue said in a prepared statement Wednesday night that the licensing violations resulted from the AHCA changing its definitions of gestational periods and that the centers were operating in compliance with Florida law.

    Planned Parenthood is saying Gov. Rick Scott changed the rules on when a first trimester abortion could be performed and, in reality, they did nothing wrong.
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    Nothing stops them and they just make excuses. This trouble PP is in isn't going to go away, it's no the national radar now.
     
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    I'm sure any problem, if there is any, will soon be corrected. Much to your dismay. I fail to understand why the idea of closing down an organization that provides so much help to poor women gives you cause for celebration.
     
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    Well the parts would be too small otherwise. Even a baby at 24 weeks gestation is only 11.8 inches long.
    There's probably an incentive in some cases to let the fetus gestate just a little while longer to let those organs reach optimal size...
     
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    Then it is nothing more than an opinion and a pretty much worthless one at that.

    Truth really hurts doesn't it.

    again yet more worthless opinion.
     
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    Hospitals. They are inspected. They ALL have violations found. Should we shut down all the hospitals ?

    I don't see what those clinics were doing wrong, performing abortions is legal :) But let's shut them down, poor women have less access to affordable birth control and then they just have to travel farther to GET AN ABORTION ..... Good plan, Repubs! Make women suffer as much as possible, your goal in life...
     
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    The ACOG says PP did nothing wrong. This is nothing but harassment and you should be ashamed for your side.
     
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    What, the dictionary is wrong? Your argument, "Harvesting means selling" is wrong.
     
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    Harvesting the parts of wantonly slain children is an honorable practice in your opinion?
    - - - Updated - - -

    That is hilarious! She should be ashamed of standing on the side of basic human decency?
     
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    Well we all know that is not true!
     
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    Only those who are gullible enough to fall for "heavily edited" videos would "know" that.
     
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    Yes, organ donation has saved many lives; it's an honorable practice.

    It is NEVER necessary to lie and slander to uphold basic human decency.
     
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    Are you aware that many women cannot take the pill or any hormonal contraceptives? There *is* a list of contraindications.
     

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