Prayer Cases Turned Away by U.S. Supreme Court Justices

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  1. Marine1

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    Typical Liberal view. I said nothing of pushing religion on anyone. My parents never went to church, but Mom was a Christian. I don't about Dad. He never even talked about it. But all six of us kids went to church. No one pushed us. I was Baptist, My two sisters Catholic and the rest Lutheran. I see nothing wrong in allowing children to chose for themselves what they want to be. But it seem two many Liberals want to do like they do for everything else. If they don't like it, get rid of it. Most Conservatives believe if you don't like it than don't partake in it.
     
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    Typical Conservative view, I said nothing about allowing Children to pray on their own in their own time, I am against Christians forcing their religion on other peoples children... simple

    you replied to this remember

    and you replied with
    you're talking about parents that push their religious views on children being sick, I am saying government pushing their religious views on other people's children is sick
     
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    Says who? Supreme Court interpretations change.
     
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    That's not true, I don't know any liberals that want to enforce their views about religion on anyone.
    And that is AbsaByGodLutely bullshit. It's actually what the Supreme's decision not to hear cases about prayer is about. I haven't read every post in this thread, but it seems we're (those posting) are skirting the "elephant in the room", which is the Evangelical Rights push to codify their brand of "Christianity" as the favored national religion of U.S. Which would include all downsides to freedom of worship that the Founders found abhorrent.
     
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    As currently interpreted.
     
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    Anytime religion is endorsed by government, especially when it is done so over other religions, it is a violation

    In God We Trust is an especially egregious violation
     
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    You think you have the right to impose your beliefs about religion on the electorate. I do not think you have that right.
     
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    My belief on religion is they should be free to practice it up until it is forced on someone that doesn’t agree with it.

    The electorate is speaking, so I don’t really care what you believe. The religiously affiliated will be a minority in this nation in a generation
     
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    That's AbsaByGodLutely true ... for ALL Americans. I can't tell you how to pray and you can't make me listen to you pray. Christians don't hold a superior position in our nation, we are all equal under the law.

    Or were until tRaitor tRump. Before you comment on that, it's all too apparent that any other American would already be IN jail long ago if the would have attempted even one of the crimes he's been charged with.
     
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    Haters will hate.
     
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    That's what the Romans said.
     
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    The reason behind the Separation of church and state is so governments cannot impose a particular religion on the people. You might need to refresh your history on the Church of England and its connection to King Henry VIII.
     
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    Allowing only one religion to start sessions or have untrained chaplains in schools is the government imposing a particular religion.
     
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    No one is pushing any religion on anyone.
     
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    sadly some on the right are trying to do just that
     
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    Oh really

    Can you tell use what the purpose of having the 10 commandments in classrooms is? Or allowing chaplains to replace school counselors? Or judges ruling on law quoting the Bible? What about efforts to reban same sex marriage? Not allowing birth control?

    I can continue if you would like
     
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    I agree with you about Trump. My hatred for him is visceral. :angered:
     
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    Depends on the school. Private charter schools not getting government subsidies does not fall under Separation of Church And State. Public schools must allow all religions or none at all.
     
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    Isn't Atheism a religion? And not saying a prayer is part of the atheist religious practice which can make other students feel uncomfortable knowing atheists are forcing their beliefs on them?
     
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    It is Atheists who think they have a superior position using the Separation of Church And State to their advantage. It is a tactic used by Marxist Communist.

    The Privileged Class is trying like hell to get him disqualified. If Trump decided to not run for president all his legal troubles would go away.
     
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    You must be pretty pissed at all the Liberals on SCOTUS who unanimously agreed not to hear this appeal.
     
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    All of that was at public schools. Mostly Texas
     
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    For ALL Americans. I can't tell you how to pray and you can't make me listen to you pray. Christians don't hold a superior position in our nation, we are all equal under the law.
     
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    Whoa, are we talking athiests or communists, are we talking religion or politic ideology. Because if we're talking religion then anyone that doesn't want A religion, ANY religion forced on them IS supported by OUR Constitution. If we're talking political ideology then the First Amendment protects your right to believe what you wish. But in the U.S. Marxist Communism has never, and will most likely never ever hold much of a following; certainly not enough to make a political difference.

    But your point is well taken. The Conservatives, even though they have always been a minority party, of U.S. use "communism" to scare undecided voters to vote against their best interests and vote conservative.
    "The Priviliged Class" is made up of the ultra wealthy that have, traditionally, bought the best government money can buy and enjoy "PRIVILEGED" status in the U.S because their money has bought laws and favor in government that protects their position of wealth.
    The wheels of justice are grinding slowly towards bringing tRaitor tRump to account for his crimes. IF he were to drop out of the race for president he would still face over 91 indictments on Federal crimes and however many counts he now faces at the State and local level. BECAUSE, the indictments a judicial NOT political.
     
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