Probability Alien Life Watching Us Cannot be Determined

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  1. Mamasaid

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    Likely the hardest stuff they could find, like quartz or emery.
    It had a handle?
    Prefabrication is just the design they wished to build, Then they built to this spec.
    Right, just as one would expect of the master mason arranged the blocks by eyeing their properties, then had them ground down to fit together nicely. This is not a mystery to us. The odd shapes and joints don't hint at any fine design, they show opportunism. "Hey, that block can be cut less than that other block to fit there". It shows very linear thinking.
     
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    Can't help but wonder how many blocks you made in your life. You're speaking like a true creator and innovator. What did you innovate? If you can innovate something as simple as a monkey brush, I'll praise ya.
     
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    You didn't even understood my question, hah. So they made granite composite into powder by turning a handle by hand? Nice. Would've took them 12939184014192 centuries to do that on all 600 stones.
     
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    You would think the natives there, would along the way, developed the wheel, and a written language
     
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    No. They actually drove the new 5-series. 550i.
     
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    Probably just as many as you have. He also probably knows or has seen just as many Aliens.
     
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    So....the Egyptians had diamond cutting tools as well?
    Nevermind...of course they did.
     
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    Kickstart me and I'll invent something. I'll invent an animal fork (so can animals eat with a fork lastly).
     
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    Please invent a good translation device first.
     
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    Egyptians didn't build sh*t. See their scriptures. On many photos a man holding a cellphone can be seen.

    Here for example you can clearly see an airplane, a sub, and even an Apache helicopter as funnier as this may sound:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Done. I'll create a Telepathic translator.
     
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    Okay...I got your telepathy....

    ты свихнулся
     
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    Comments like those are prime examples of a lack of knowledge concerning Egyptian history. Ancient Egyptians were grand builders.
    The reference to hieroglyphics at Abydos is debunked nonsense.
     
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    A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the (conspiracy theory) Forum
    ( ) my twist on a 1966 film
     
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    The Egyptians were using batteries, the so called "Baghdad batteries". They were using electricity and light bulbs since the air inside the pyramids is not enough to keep the candle glowing. Fire burns on oxygen. It's a chemical reaction. You have no oxygen - you have no f*cking fire, or a candle light. Simple as that. The inner corridors of the Pyramids don't have enough oxygen simply. Enough tests were made. I may be "lacking knowledge", but you're lacking willingness to go to YouTube and see for yourself before smacking me with that nonsense.

    Also where did the Egyptians go? Did they just vanish? Because the current population of Egypt is just Arabs. Egyptians were White. They vanished the same way Babylonia and other civilisations went AWOL.

    And Atlantis. Something like that.
     
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    Spend some time studying archaeology and/or Egyptology instead of YouTube claptrap.
    The ."Dendera light bulb" including the rest of those claims are thoroughly debunked nonsense.
     
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    So they didn't have a light bulb? They used candles where there's no oxygen? Okayed.
     
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    Total speculation. There is no factual basis for that claim.
     
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    Even if they did have the oxygen, say they had a pumping system, they still did not have the light, to sit there for countless hours with hammer and chisel, and paint, to decorate the insides.
    PS, mirrors don't work, they tried that with modern ones.
     
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    If there is no oxygen there is no need for light as you are dead anyway.
    "
    Tomb Lighting
    There really is no mystery to this question - oil lamps were the main source of illumination of work in tombs and detailing on the inside of dim temples (Clarke and Engelback, Ancient Egyptian Construction And Architecture, 1930, p. 201). These lamps are sometimes depicted on tomb reliefs and often take the form of an open receptacle with a base that can be grasped with the hand (see figure 5.8 in Arnold, Building In Egypt, 1991, page 218 for example). Dieter Arnold mentions distribution lists of linen wicks for work in Biban el-Muluk, and Kent Weeks has found receipts on ostraca for wicks among the rubble of KV5 (The Lost Tomb,1998).

    Some lamps were little more than open dishes, floating a wick, with a pinched rim from which to pour the oil. As such lamps provide meager illumination, many must have been needed to have been effective. Olive oil is fairly clean burning, and the addition of salt may have help keep the soot at a minimum. It may also have been that the lamps were covered in some way to minimize smoke.

    In some cases, torches may have been used. Examples have been found at Dier el-Medina. They are made of various woods and are about 10 to 15 inches in length and their tops were wrapped in resin-soaked linen. It has been suggested, however, that the torches may have been used in ritual processions in later times.

    The use of mirrors is sometimes suggested, but there is no evidence that this method was in fact used. This method would seem impractical because the light beams must be constantly tracked with the relative motion of the sun, and also the path of the beam must be at all times kept clear of obstruction, the main source of which would likely be the workman himself.

    Some have proposed the use of electric storage batteries as a possible source of illumination. Though I personally know of no examples found in Egypt, in 1936 a battery-like artifact was unearthed at Khuyut Rabbou'a near Baghdad. Found in the 2,000 year-old Parthian layer, the yellow clay jar, later dubbed the "Baghdad Battery," had a copper cylinder stuck into it, held in place by asphalt. The vase was about 6" high and the cylindrical tube (with a closed bottom made of sheet copper) had a diameter of 1" and a height of 3.5". Inside the cylinder was an oxidized iron. Similar examples were found in Seleucia (which had papyrus relics inside them) and Ctesiphon (which contained rolled bronze sheets).

    Because of the similarity of the form of the relic to the modern dry battery (though the materials were different -- modern batteries employ a zinc cup and carbon rod), it has been speculated that the arrangement of components in the jars must have served as a kind of 'galvanic' function -- as a battery. Others argue that the objects may have been containers for blessings or incantations, which would have been written on organic material placed inside.

    In order for a battery to be useful, it must generate a reasonable flow of electrons for a reasonable length of time. Models of the above "battery" have been tested using as an electrolyte a solution of copper sulfate. Such devices did work but only for a short time. More recently, the use of benzoquinone (which occurs naturally in beetles and centipedes) as an electrolyte has been tested with successful but short-lived results (the use of naturally occurring organic acids and sour fruit juices were found to be too weak). Because the copper element was sealed, the oxygen rapidly depleted and the current quickly decreased to negligible levels. Strong mineral acids (unknown at the time) would be required for the two metals to generate a useful current.

    Experiments on a faulty model (with no bottom on the copper cylinder) have been more successful because oxygen diffused from the outside feeds the reaction and supports a continuous operation. For this reason, the "Baghdad Battery" is seen by some to be a faulty deviation form the other "batteries" found, which instead of a tightly close copper cylinder contained loosely rolled bronze sheets sealed only at the top and bottom. Thus, rather than just the cylinder, the entire vase would be filled with the electrolyte and, due to the porous walls of the vase, a constant supply of oxygen could diffuse into it.

    Attendant to the question of whether the vases were used as power sources is the question of exactly what electrical apparatuses or processes they were meant to support. The most popular speculation is that they were used for electrotherapy or electroplating. Unfortunately, there is no archaeological or historical evidence to corroborate this.

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    Just thought I would provide a little reality check.
     
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    Many of these explanations are just plain silly. Like a bunch of nerds with the base plan already in place, trying to figure out how it can be done.
    Unfortunately, none of these actually work.

    And when a preposterous explanation is given, it is as though this is the only case on earth, and some iffy suggestions are taken as plausible.
    But when you take the sheer numbers of cases, all over the world, and try to hand wave it off as lost technology.
    Like all these hundreds of cultures, all over the world, independent of each other, all figured out how to do this stuff,
    And then they all forgot how to do it, and we, modern people, just cannot figure it out.
     
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    I'm pretty sure you are the only one stating "lost technology" is involved except Ancient Aliens or "Chariots of the Gods". Every case you bring up is more easily explained by time involved, number of people, established techniques and tools than by some imagined visitation by beings that then decided to leave and clean up their toys.
     
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    If you were watching my posts, I never claimed aliens, only offered that as one of the possibilities.
    Another being we were an advanced civilization, but blew ourselves up, and emerged again. from the stone age.
    This theory is shared by some native cultures here, Hopi says this is the third time, and by the Hindu.
    Of course the Hindu also put in some aliens.

    We are on the verge of blowing ourselves up again,
     
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    I do want to point out, most of the world religions, including Christianity. point to Aliens, however none of this can be proven at this time. Just more piles of circumstantial stuff.
    Many religions have the aliens breeding with the earth people.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Does that look "white" to you? To me, it looks like the modern Egyptians. That is, the ancient Egyptians didn't go anywhere, because they're the same people as the modern Egyptians. That's what DNA analysis shows as well.
     
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