Professor Wolff Responds to Trump's State of the Union Speech

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  1. resisting arrest

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    Professor Wolff is right. Trump said many inaccurate things. Professor Wolff said absolutely nothing wrong. America is more unequal than ever. Interest in socialism has positively increased like never before. Rebellion is inevitable and continuous.

     
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    BINGO!!

    Every word true. But I'll make a prediction. I predict that there will be no reply from the right that reflects having actually watched the whole video. They'll comment on the title, on Prof. Wolff, and/or on the first 2 minutes of the video, and their comments will not reflect reality and fact.

    Wolff's assessment of Trump and his speech last night is exactly right in every detail. And he only commented on a small part of it, yet the remainder was just as bad.
     
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    Where is he a professor at?
     
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    So income quadrupled in China, but where did it start off? On illegal immigrants, this demented old timer says, "Nothing that you can do to those poor 10-12 million of the lowest paid people in our economy is going to change the economic conditions for 325 million Americans." Did Trump link the economic conditions for Americans when talking about illegal immigration?
     
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    So income quadrupled in China, but where did it start off? On illegal immigrants, this demented old timer says, "Nothing that you can do to those poor 10-12 million of the lowest paid people in our economy is going to change the economic conditions for 325 million Americans." Did Trump link the economic conditions for Americans when talking about illegal immigration?
     
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    You predicted wrong.
     
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    And I predict that there will be no reply from the LEFT to any replies from the RIGHT. And it is beginning to look like my prediction is coming true!
     
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    Completely wrong. Nothing but talking points.
     
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    Don't expect a response from @resisting arrest or @Kode.
     
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    Angry Marxist compares a growth of a developing country with the developed world. Compares the number of illegals, claiming 12 million, with 300+ million total population --- but forgets that the 12 million with no chance of assimilation should be compared to the 15.7 million in extreme poverty inherited by Trump, almost doubling the number.

    An ideologue who embraces an ideology that has failed everywhere it's been tried has to distort the facts. And we allow this clown near our young people?
     
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    Yup. Wolff compares two economies. One does the hard work of innovating. Curse the innovators who reap rewards. The other steals intellectual property ,,, rewards with equal pay for equal theft.
     
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    Do you know what college this demented old joker is at?
     
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    With a PhD from Yale, I'm gonna go with Wolff. You righties are all in a twist, not because of his accuracy or inaccuracy, but because he stands for the working class and you don't. You stand against them. So ya know what? Go twist.
     
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    Wolf is to sound economic theory what rat poison is to rats. Chinese incomes went up not because china is more socialist than the US and Europe but because under every leader since Mao it has become progressively less socialist.
     
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    At least the left is no longer pretending not to take their talking points from Marxist
     
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    I watched this guy carve out his block of swiss cheese, deftly leaving out the facts and logic that didn't allow him to paint a negative response to the SOTU.
    We are so used to this kind of tactic from the left, that is expected and ludicrous- but not credible. It is a distraction played to spin people's perceptions, so they don't support what the left does not want them to see.

    Example- China growth. China was doing miserably under it's own economic program, and around 30-35 years ago one of the influential people there decided to actually recognize that capitalism worked far better- but knowing it could not be sold by that name, called his idea “socialist modernization”. It began with the advantage of massive labor resources working for minuscule wages, supported with government subsidies and exemptions. Can you make rapid growth when you aren't paying those who build the products squat? Of course you can. You can steal business all over the world and grow rapidly with a near-slave wage labor system. Biggest customer? USA. We were so happy to see them moving toward free-market capitalism, we forgot we were feeding our competition; forgot that we had an obligation to America first. We made very liberal trade agreements to encourage them.... that hurt us in the long run, but flooded our market with cheap copies of our own products, which of course people bought because they were cheap. China took thousands of items that were designed and developed and successful in the USA, and duplicated them- literally by purchasing one of ours, reverse engineering from that model, and putting a copy on the market to sell to us,competing with our own manufacturers who had created the products. This included machine tools- lathes, mills, saws, the very products that are necessary to build an industrial base. We gave them our technology, our designs, our knowledge, and the very means to duplicate our industry with far cheaper labor, all so they could hammer our own economic system. WE were responsible for China's growth- and at our own expense. We literally shipped our own manufacturing industry market out of the country- killing off the American base of it- then we lament the fact we become a service economy, as if we had no responsibility for that. Today, there are many areas where we have no ability to meet or own market needs because of exactly that kind of mentality. Clothing and shoes- virtually all imports today. We have American companies designing many of those things, but the are actually made in China, or Pakistan, or Vietnam- anyplace but here. Look around your home, or at products in the stores, and find the "Made in" statement. Keep count of the products made in the USA as opposed to imported- then realize that a good many of those that say "Made in the USA" were only assembled her, from parts made in other countries and imported. But here, American people demanded higher wages, do not want to compete in a global economy, want protection from the international competition on labor costs, but want full advantage of the cheap foreign products. Have you cake and eat it too- it's on every political menu. China's GDP is slowing now, because it's wages have been growing so fast that the growth is throttled by their own rising costs of labor and other overhead. Competition on a more level playing field is kicking in.

    Trump has long recognized this situation. It is the purpose behind the trade negotiations and tariffs that are being put in place to restore a realistic balance that puts us back in the game. He has been successful at bringing manufacturing back home in many areas, with many more to go. The the tax acts that allow companies that we have driven offshore to return mean that the tax flow will continue in the future- and unless you are a fool, you must think in terms of where we will be in the future rather than today. That is what great leaders do- and it's often not popular with those wanting instant gratification in life. Short term thinkers never get great long-term results. We literally gave away our competitive advantage; now the Trump administration is trying to restore it.

    Mr Wolf either knows and chooses to leave that truth out, or he's totally unqualified in the first place. But then, he is obviously under the syndrome.

    The SOTU was exceptional, and on-target. Even CNN's poll showed it 76% approval, and while that must have chapped their ass to report it, but they did.
     
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    Wolff is a bit far on the left for my taste. However, he nails it with this video.

    That's what is happening with immigrants, they are the scapegoat for the stagnation of wages caused by supply side policies in the last decades. As if people's lives would all of a sudden improve dramatically if all immigrants were gone. It's not going to happen, yet, that's what Trump voters WANT to believe.

    The interesting part is that Trump voters all of a sudden have been pro-tariff, when they have been for free trade in the past. Amazing about face.
     
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    Your talking point is way down on the list of actual reasons why the wall should be funded.

    Elite Progressive are telling you what you should believe about what Conservatives think. GOP-E Elitists have a different agenda altogether that is more similar to that of the DNC-E.

    Who is the person in this thread that is talking about the DNC being concerned about and caring about the working class?
    Pure balderdash !!
     
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    A PHD in what?
     
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    Unsurprisingly, @Kode has nothing in response to your logic.
     
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    GOP-E?
     
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    Wolff seems to hate trump but loves communist china

    So he offers half truths and misrepresentstions of the truth

    If china is doing better than America tell us why?
     
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    Only because he hasn't a damn clue what has actually been happening in China for the last fifty years.
     
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    No one is against immigrants. Democrats know their voters aren't bright enough to know the difference between immigrants and uninvited intruders. Jonathan Gruber explained the low esteem Democrats hold their voters in and why they know they can get away with brainwashing them. In his case, it was lying Obamacare into existence. Currently, its the use of the word immigrant to describe an uninvited intruder.
     
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