Protest At Russian Embassy In Kiev Gets Ugly

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  1. Ronstar

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    exactly, and the supply for Europe flows through Ukraine.

    Russia simply intends on reducing its output through Ukraine, by the quantity requested by Ukraine.

    Europe can offset this by simply buying MORE gas and then selling it to Ukraine.
     
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    Are you sure that European taxpayers are eager to pay for Ukrainian gas?

    And are you sure that Ukraine will pay the money to Europe?

    What you say does not make any sense, neither mathematically, nor physically.

    :D
     
  3. Pronin24

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    Your English is clear enough. One thing is certain: everything in Ukraine turns ugly. They have ugly government, ugly politics and ugly protesters. What do they protest? They need aggressive actions from Russia so they could start squealing about being annexed and scare EU and USA. However, Putin stays calm and keeps doing his business. Ukraine is still not quite ripe for real protests.
     
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    As far as i know gas (export to all countries) gives about 1/8 of resources export money to Russia. Other 7/8 gives oil export.
     
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    The USA will bow to the demands of the lobby that controls their foreign policy, and via the USA they control the entire world, including EU, and they can openly bribe people in Ukraine.

    Russia is an obstacle to their global power, and that is why Russians are so hated today.
     
  6. Ronstar

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    nobody hates Russians.

    what we hate, are the Nazi-like policies of Russia.

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    and who is this lobby?

    zee Jews??? :roflol:
     
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    Yes that is what he is saying, he believes Jews are responsible for Bolshevism, look at his signature, he denies the holocaust too, this is the quality of people who support the Russian Federation, and then they have the audacity to turn around and accuse the duly elected Ukrainian government of being fascist. :roll:
     
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    his anti-Jewish comments are disgusting & notorious.
     
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    "Inhumans" isn't a word, there is no "inhuman" noun it doesn't exist in the English language, it is a descriptor of the invaders, if there was a proper English translation it would be "inhuman invaders" which is an apt description of those that shot down the the plane are lacking the human qualities of compassion and mercy, and they are cruel and barbaric.
     
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    BS, the link in the OP which is the official transcription clearly says inhuman so spare us the nonsense.
     
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    The Russian government officials within the embassy should be arrested and put on trial for the war crimes committed against the Ukraine, hopefully Putin gets a snipers bullet to the head very soon along with every single Russian soldier illegally occupying sovereign Ukrainian territory, they are all legitimate military targets.
     
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    Sure, TODAY it says inhuman. When it was put up yesterday, it clearly said SUBHUMAN. It obviously was edited, but screenshots were taken.

    As I posted earlier a simple search for "Yats subhuman comment" will bring it right up.

    Thanks for giving me the opportunity to post that again. Wanna try some more?
     
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    - I am very fluent with Russian and Ukrainian languages since they both my native. So what was the original word that has no proper translation? If you so sure.
    - Maybe it is not really proper in this form but they used it nevertheless so it doesn't matter. Also English has nice word-creation system with prefixes and suffixes.
    - Original word was subhuman. Which is exist but was edited in article because it is direct translation of "Untermensch". Have I explain where it comes from? - Probably I have:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untermensch
    ...Untermensch (German for under man, sub-man, sub-human; plural: Untermenschen) is a term that became infamous when the Nazis used it to describe "inferior people"[1] often referred to as "the masses from the East," that is Jews, Gypsies, and Slavs; including Poles, Serbs, Belarusians, Russians, and Rusyns...
     
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    Fun with photoshop.

    Russian propaganda. Provide audio evidence for your assertions.
     
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    The proper definition of inhuman has been posted, if it improperly used as a noun it would mean a person who lacks compassion and mercy which is an apt description of those who shot down the plane.

    Provide evidence that he called them Untermensch.
     
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    He called them subhumans. It means Untermensch. A lot of evidences in the web. You won't admit it, so why should i bother.
     
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    Why did you quote my post when making your silly rant? It has nothing to do with your gibberish. Do they pay you extra for that?
     
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    CNN apparently hasn't gotten the memo to change Yatsenyuk's quote yet. They are still running with 'subhuman'. Anybody want to get a screenshot? I can't from my phone.

    Here's the link.
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/15/world/europe/ukraine-crisis/?hpt=hp_t1
     
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    Also, remember what Timoshenko said in her fiery political speech? She called to wipe Russians with nuclear weapons! She also run for Ukrainian president, Poroshenko won. However, the idea is live in Kiev.
     
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    ....men arrested with IED.

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    LINK: http://rt.com/news/166312-explosive-device-odessa-consulate/

    Ukrainian police have detained two men with a package presumably containing a homemade explosive device near Russia’s consulate in the city of Odessa. The explosive has been sent for inspection, the local Ministry of Interior reports.

    "Today, on June 16, on the corner of Posmitnogo and Genuezskoi, two individuals were detained [who were] carrying a package in which there was a subject similar to an improvised explosive device. These persons were detained a few hundred meters from the General Consulate of the Russian Federation in Odessa, where at that time a rally was being held,” police said in a statement.

    Pictures of the suspected explosive device have been released on the Interior Ministry's website. The images show a black plastic bag with two plastic bottles filled with an unidentified clear liquid. Wires and a power supply, as well as a box with metal elements, have been connected to the bottles with sticky tape. Investigators suspect the metal parts were aimed at harming people during an explosion.

    On Monday, nearly 200 protesters, including some wearing symbols of radical group Right Sector, gathered outside the consulate demanding the Russian flag be taken down. The group was confronted by another mob of people who also were there, demanding that police “go fight in Donetsk.”

    Security around the office was boosted as protesters brought tires and funeral flowers.

    Earlier on Monday, there were reports that police detained four protesters carrying explosives and a knife outside the Russian consulate. It was said that the four were involved in a brawl with officers, in which several people were injured.

    The chairman of the Odessa Regional State Administration, Igor Palitsa, said that the four activists behind the clashes are members of the nationalist Svoboda (Freedom) party. Palitsa said he has already received calls from Kiev asking him to release those detained.

    Одесса - возле консульства России произошла ... YouTu

    The rally in Odessa comes two days after the Russian embassy in Kiev was attacked by protesters who vandalized the premises and piled up tires to block entry into the building. They threw stones, smoke grenades and eggs at the building, and overturned several diplomatic cars.

    The crowd of violent activists was later joined by dozens of masked and camouflaged radicals of the Maidan self-defense troops, the Right Sector, and the nationalist Svoboda party.

    R
     
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    Bingo!....That's the situation in a nutshell. Those who falsely claim this isn't about U.S imperialism and the goal of U.S global hegemony haven't read the PNAC.
     
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    Or
    The Fourth Political Theory
    beyond left and right but against the center

    http://www.4pt.su/en

    and that is what we are dealing with here.
     
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    No, what we are dealing with is Russia's attempts at counteracting overarching U.S imperialist power with the relatively limited imperialist power of their own.
     
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    No, that is your imagination. There is no evidence of this. The two phone calls that the Russians released is the best they have and they do not prove any of that. Apart from that Ukraine has been trying to get into Nato and the EU for decades. The EU is the one who has been slow on moving. Russia has attacked Ukraine and annexed Crimea because Ukraine is about to sign an Association Agreement with the EU and after that date, June 27, if the EU does not put it off again, Ukraine will not be able to be a part of the Eurasia Union.

    Given that this is the situation Ukraine finds herself in Russia has decided to divide Ukraine by creating civil war. You have already been given some material concerning that. She wants the other third to join with Poland. I read the other day that she had already offered it to Poland but I haven't checked that and can't remember which article it was in. You will also see if you do a study that Russia wants a lot more that just Ukraine. At her wildest dreams she wants the whole of continental Europe, occasionally even the UK, the EU having been destroyed by the far right. Have you noticed RT is even beginning to give UKIP air time.

    Now that is the situation we have now. I know you refuse to see it but it is. The annoying thing is that it is going to push further the relationship between Europe and the US, it will enlarge NATO but that is what must b e done to keep Europe safe. Of course Russia is really hoping and expecting for issues in European countries to cause unrest and people to become more against Muslims and hence move towards the far right. In everything I have known about you, you are supporting what I have always felt you were against. Russia is looking to form an authoritarian anti liberal union with herself at the top. RT will use your criticism of the US to get you to help her to complete her aims. Other posters who are supporting Russia are either Russian, like the one you were replying to far right and very heavily pro Russia or like another poster in it because of a fanaticism of religion and the rest are doing it like you, simply because despite the evidence they are not looking at the issue and are holding on hard, or not emotionally able to set to one side their criticism of the US and see what is going on - and all with no evidence when all the evidence is piled up the other way round.
     

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