Psaki: Even After Vaccine, You Still Need to Social Distance and Wear Masks

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  1. HB Surfer

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    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2021/02/05/psaki-masks-social-distancing-n2584279

    White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki’s comments about the health and safety precautions one must take even after getting the coronavirus vaccine raised questions on social media about the point of getting inoculated.

    “What we are also trying to do is make our health and medical experts available to ensure people understand – and I’ll reiterate it here today – it’s not just a vaccine,” Psaki said Thursday at a press conference. “It’s obviously an incredible medical breakthrough and we want every American to have one, but even after you’re vaccinated, social distancing [and] wearing masks is going to be essential and we’ll need to continue communicating about that through health and medical experts.”

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    This is insane and will dissuade people from actually getting the vaccine. What are they thinking?

    Fact: It has been shown that a very small set of people after getting the vaccine, do get CV-19 but VERY mild with zero deaths. ZERO DEATHS.

    There is no reason and no science to support to continue to wear a mask, or to socially distance. Also, the same goes for those that caught CV-19 and have recovered for at least six months per the latest peer reviewed study. It's more likely that the antibodies remain for over a year, but they don't have a sample large enough over that period of time yet.

    What the Democrats and the Biden Administration are doing is purely Authoritarian. There is NO SCIENCE that backs up anyone needs a mask after recovering or after receiving the vaccines. Their question for a new normal where they control the population in an dictatorial manner is terrible and un-American. This is anti-science.
     
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    The cluelessness of the science-denialists is never- ending.

    Many Viruses and bacteria can live nicely on warm, often moist humans for a while even if a person who is vaccinated is on someone's hands, mouth, sneeze boogers, etc. another person can pickup up germs and then the vaccinated (or immune) person can sent it to another person.

    Another issue is that even right now, we are seeing new varieties and mutations that can tremendously reduce effective of vaccine or aquired immunity from COVID and recovery will be quite able to catch a new version.

    There's more, but these so-called "Facts" aren't a fact! Just people with agendas and or are paid to make everything be AOK so other people are willing to go out and possibly get sick.
     
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    Yeah? And, so what?

    Everybody KNEW that already,

    Psaki just told everybody that "2+2=4" and "The Sun Rises in the East".

    Even WITH The Vaccine--The Country is looking at (at least) another year of social distancing.

    That has been OLD News (and Accepted FACT) Forever (at this point).

    In terms of Full Sports Stadiums and Major Music Festivals, Summer 2022 would be a miracle.

    That has always been universally accepted.

    Thus, what (exactly) is so "shocking" about Psaki telling people that "2+2=4"?
     
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    There is absolute no study that shows those that have the antibody or vaccine need to wear masks or socially distance. There is NO SCIENCE or data making that conclusion. This is just Authoritarians trying to control the rest of the population in an Orwellian dystopian nightmare and real Americans are not going to follow this crap.
     
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    What if they get it, it’s very mild and they spread it?
     
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    Guess it wasn’t some anti trump conspiracy after all. Go figure!
     
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    Now that we're almost a year into this, we've seen that the lethality rate of COVID is very low, regardless of mutation. The vast majority of people who have died had pre-existing conditions, so they didn't die from COVID alone.

    If the evidence suggests that the vaccine isn't particularly useful due to mutations that are developing, then maybe the best course of action is to simply make the less healthy members of society isolate, while the rest of us can live normally. It would certainly make the most economic sense.
     
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    Is "Orwellian" the Secret Word of the Day?
    And the other Secret Word is "dystopian"?

    I wouldn't want to miss anything.

    Personally, I think it is beyond misguided to refer to the Government response to a Deadly Pandemic (that has killed over 459k Americans (with a death toll still rising)) as "Orwellian" or "dystopian".

    But, hey--I might join in--BUT only if I can figure out a way to interject a worn-out Fahrenheit 451 reference.

    Anyway, as I stated earlier, everybody has known for ages that (even after the vaccine) social distancing (and masking) was going to last for (at least) another year.
     
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    For the last 50 years, there are plenty of studies and experiments that show contact between anything to anything (door knobs, water, other people who are immune) can transfer bacteria and viruses to other people and surfaces and ultimately make other people, be they two or three or more contacts removed from noncontagious people.

    This is part of germ theory, and it a pretty basic concept.
     
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    Awwwww! Diddums! Did the bad mans in the White House ask you to do something that has a sound scientific basis and might help get you out of your current mess? Your fact free diatribe has no basis in reality

    would it not be nice if America was doing as well as Vietnam, India, most of Africa........

    Hint THEY are wearing masks!
     
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    Actually it is about 150 years since Semmelweis and it blows me out of the room that people still haven’t caught up
     
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    Among the wealthier nations that are doing well, you could make the argument that they're more vigilant about mask wearing, but as far as the developing world goes, the primary difference is that many areas don't do much testing. Many African nations have to worry about much more severe illnesses than COVID.
     
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    Go ahead. Share with everyone the study that shows people need to wear a mask with the antibodies in their system or with the vaccine.
     
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    400,000 is not low

    And for those who have recovered a large percentage are needing re-admission to hospital following “recovery”. Your ICUs are full

    who is paying for that?
     
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    If we don't get back to business as usual, there won't be any money to pay for the ICUs.

    Readmission seems to be about 10% of those people, although the percentage of people who are admitted in the first place is entirely dependent on pre-existing conditions.

    In short, the issue isn't that the rate is really that high among all who are infected. It's that we don't have that many ICUs in most areas. That's something that maybe we should expand, but that's a separate issue overall that isn't really going to be solved by lockdowns.
     
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    Sadly for these hopes, there are problems with this idea. Even people who don't die quickly, even younger people can end up being not so healthy after a bout of COVID, along with new disabilities and other issues. Those are clearly being high billions and probably in the triions of economic losses.

    But this is already showing the loss of this hopeful dream because several of these current variancies are showing mode deadly and younger onset of these disease, not even including other variations that are much more infectious even though not more deadly (yet).

    The Fat Lady has a long time before she might sing.
     
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    Wrong!
    India is doing a bog load of testing and has mandated masks with on the spot fines. Total deaths - around one quarter of the USA
     
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    You are beggaring yourselves NOW! who is paying for all the sick?


    Mask mandates allow the economies to reopen, not fully, but it is safer
     
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    In urban areas, sure. In rural areas, not so much.
     
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    :roll::roll::roll:

    Don’t know much about vaccines?

    I am not going to convince you so why don’t you do a google search on how vaccines actually work or better yet explain to me why you think they would stop transmission
     
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    Bottom line

    America is the only country we’re there has been massive resistance to basic infection control measures and America has the highest death rate in the world
     
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    That doesn't seem to be the case for Europe, or anywhere else actually. What we're seeing is that culture has more to do with the success of measures. Some cultures are just more conformist and clean than others.

    Mandates can't be enforced universally, because the state isn't everywhere all the time. Even semi-police states like China have trouble enforcing their edicts, and when they fail at it, they just cover it up to save face.

    Ultimately, private action makes the difference, not the state or laws.
     
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    Actually, the Netherlands just had riots over new restrictions. Many nations besides them have as well.

    Our death rate might have more to do with the rather unhealthy population we have and our somewhat broken medical system.
     
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    The Spanish Flu was a lot more deadly than COVID, and we didn't require more than a year of restrictions.

    I think COVID will eventually just become something akin to the flu season. New mutations will happen every year, but we won't lock everything down. We'll just have to be more vigilant about hygiene and cleaning.
     
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    You can't produce a single study.

    Vaccines are so we can go about life normally. You don't seem to know much about them.

    There is no reason for people that cannot get or transmit CV-19 to wear masks or socially distance.
     
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