Punches thrown during anti-immigration protest in Edmonton

Actually..... the majority of us Canadians that are against the United Nations Migration Pact are somewhat pro-immigration but the wide open border policy advocated by P. M. Trudeau is creating some serious problems that need to be addressed.

For one thing the vast majority of immigrants who claim refugee status as soon as they get off a plane in Canada...... (or walk across the border)....... want to move to Toronto because they have heard good things about Toronto and area and may even know some relatives or friends of friends who already live there.




Punches thrown during anti-immigration protest in Edmonton
Pro and anti-immigration protesters separated by line of police officers
Anna McMillan · CBC News · Posted: Dec 15, 2018 4:38 PM MT | Last Updated: December 15

I admit that wide open borders can sound good...... but are there situations where this is just not a practical solution?

Ramaphosa: SA borders 'need to be open for Africans to move freely and to promote business'

 

Oh dear, don't tell me that liberal Canada is going to go the same way as liberal Sweden? It does figure though, because liberals always discover the fatal flaws in their dogma when it's too late, suckers that they are!

 

Canada is less socialized and has a lot more space than Sweden. However, the surrounding city areas are still going to get overcrowded. That might mean a dichotomy between a housing crisis and a shortage of good paying jobs for ordinary Canadians. Especially those young people who typically move to Toronto or Vancouver to get that first job to establish their careers.

Anyway, I heard that now Canadians are worrying since the migrants are being turned away from the U.S.

https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-canadian-envoy-tps-20180129-story.html

Tensions Rise as More U.S. Illegals Cross Border into Canada

 

Here is the type of thing that gets many Canadians kind of angry:


Maple Leaf Foods cutting more than 400 jobs

but then......


Maple Leaf Foods offers to hire Syrian refugees at plants in Manitoba, Alberta

Would refugees from Syria tend to be more willing to work for less than what Canadians would expect?

Could politicians and business leaders in Canada be hoping to use the influx of refugees to Canada to reduce their operating costs at the same time that the city government of Toronto is faced with huge bills over providing new housing?

 

I'm guessing most of the burden for those taxes in going to fall on the Middle Class, while businesses will get a subsidized form of cheap labor.

 

Yes....... here is what has happened in some communities:


Some intriguing numbers are given in this video:

 

That is exactly what most of us are figuring will probably happen.

Ms. Faith Goldy's response seems strong to my thinking but.....
she is seeing her city have a surge in violence over the last few years..... so I can understand why she is advocating a strong response to address the rather serious situation in her city Toronto.

 

Sounds from the vid like the Canadians are stupid enough to believe all their 'newcomers' are from Syria (the Canadian females probably thought they'd come from a war zone, so let's all give them a cuddle and take in some more. ), when I'll bet none of them are. But hey, the guy said he wished he were back home in 'Syria', so why doesn't he go back home? He and his 6 kids and 2 or 3 wives aren't being detained by the Canadian authorities, are they? Oh well, those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad, so first Sweden and now Canada. Serves them right as far as I'm concerned. As is often said - you make your bed, you lay on it??

 

Maybe she could just wear those trendy new anti-rape pants.

 

The woman in the video is certainly a good speaker who
I believe could be fed a plan that could in theory lead to
refugees from Canada, the USA and Europe feeling much more
free to return to the Middle East or wherever they came from.

Can Ms. Faith Goldy save Europe?

The central part of what I have in mind is an alternative theory on stabilization of the world climate put forward by New Mexico biologist and coach Carl Cantrell that Muslims do have valid reason to like:

"Muslims Jews Christians Hindus mutual respect group" (Facebook):

If we will take into consideration Israeli technological developments and Australian real estate.... we really do have a potential way to divert those 4.3 trillion USA petro- dollars that are hanging like the proverbial Sword of Damocles over the stability of the dollar.


http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ump-has-a-4-3-trillion-dollar-problem.531929/

..... President Trump has a 4.3 trillion dollar problem....

 

Interesting..... this is the first time that I heard of these:



Introducing the world's first anti-rape pants. This is wrong on so many levels

.....and I do hope that I didn't get her into trouble with this discussion???????

Can really, really, really intelligent women be hot?

If I remember correctly... this video is actually an audio so you will have to listen to her guys.... rather than gawk at her!

 

Is Trudeau actually advocating wide open borders (no passport control)?

 

He started out pretty much doing that but high level advisors in his party forced him to pull in his horns somewhat later on.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/harald-bauder/open-border-refugees-canada_a_23454890/

It's Time For Canada To Truly Open Its Borders
An open-borders policy entails that all people regardless of citizenship, origin, wealth or skills are permitted to enter Canada.

Trudeau walks back reckless immigration tweet

 

Sounds like he is referring to asylum seekers.

 

Wide open borders has never sounded good.

 

I totally agree with you Fred!

But I have to admit that Americans have even more reasons to be worried than we Canadians do.

The Donald Trump campaign and the film "Cartel Land."



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartel_Land

 

conservatives have severely and deliberately distorted the UN Pact it doesn't advocate wide open borders, conservatives have contorted the Pact into dog whistle politics to rile up their white supremacist base(another red meat niqab issue)they know their base will never study the UN Pact...all the loop holes that migrants are using to gain access into canada now existed under the previous conservative government for nearly a decade and the conservatives did nothing to change it...trying to shift it to the current government is a cheap pre-election ploy, it's bs...

and I'm not a Trudeau supporter, just keeping it honest

 

that isn't possible 99.999% of the time, you can't get on an international flight without a passport...unless the individual is intending to swim to Canada... the only other way is the US border and that's the USA's doing not Canada's as the US let them in without documentation first

 

You obviously are well informed about Canada so I am wondering what you think of this poll question?

Would Americans be willing to trade California for Alberta?

 

It boils down to what people mean by "open borders" and/or "wide open borders", because such thing does not seem to exist. I hear people say that liberals want open borders, but I never actually heard a liberal suggest such thing.

 

I'm an albertan and would never consider joining the US...cali joining canada, ok I love San Diego!

 

for as long as I can recall we've always welcomed asylum seekers...but the conservative party is twisting it to imply something else, they're shifting hard to the right to prevent the new conservative party of Maxime Bernier attracting their far right base voters...

my only grievance is queue jumpers who are clearly not asylum seekers but economic migrants...and there's nothing wrong with economic migrants but they need to qualify and wait their turn like others who have waited years to be admitted...those queue jumpers need to be dealt with quickly and sent back home...

 

often a company reduces cost to stay competitive or they risk going out of business...none of these immigrants is getting less than the minimum wage the laws demand, often they take jobs that Canadians will not do or work in small communities people are leaving...

 

Wait! So unlimited free for all open borders is actually not a good idea? Im shocked!

 

The refugee crisis is only going to get worse as economic and environmental conditions become more challenging. We can condemn people to their fate - especially in countries in Latin America or the Arab world where our own policies such as allying with regressive, brutal petro-states or the disastrous war on drugs have acerbated the problem - or we can find some more rational, logical way to deal with the humanitarian crisis's as they deepen and get worse.

This is not going away. Building walls will not stop it and allowing people to die on mass escaping war, violence, starvation or environmental disaster will forever be a stain on our human consciousness.

Figuring out a way to effectively and humanly deal with this would be a good idea.