Putin - Russia Will Begin Partial Mobilization Immediately

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm under the suspicion that the Kremlin announced the recruiting of 300 thousand beforehand to the airlines of friendly countries. They knew many of the fifth column would run out and by telling the airlines, they would be able to make a killing with the air fares and at the same time get rid of the troublemakers. I read that a fare to Dubai ran as high as $9 thousand dollars.
     
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    I did state in another post that too bad the good Russians are leaving that leaves fewer to resist. Oh I see you call the good Russians “trouble makers. Why! Because they tell you and speak the truth about Putin. I get it.
     
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    Teach them how to build thermobaric warheads for the HIMARS rockets. The Soviets Russians are using them, so fair is fair...
     
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    Lol you think so? British SAS probably gas some people on the ground or the US does observing and assisting with training. Just not officially.

    Canada Joint Task Force 2 had operatives in Ukraine before the war broke out. We will never know the true extent Par and certainly its not direct soldier intervention but they are probably in there.

    Certainly Poland may have had people in there helping transfer equipment.

    There's also "civilians" from NATO country who have volunteered some of course of Ukrainian ethnic heritage. How many of those were civilians and not soldiers before they came over who knows. That all said Par because I am just of course talking with you, I am concerned with Putin's latest comments. I have stated myself he is a sociopath and will not stop until he himself is physically taken out and killed and I have stated I think there are sufficient extremists as bad or worse than him egging him on and I am not sure what it will take for Russia to end this insanity. There is of course a growing number who want no more war but I think people under-estimate the no. of extremists in Russia pushing the war as well. Violence internally in Russia is certainly probable in the months ahead and Ukraine can stand and defend but its a damn tragedy as it continues and no one should underestimate Putin who no different than Hitler is insisting on running things even though he clearly is out of his league.
     
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    Ritish and US trainers were on the ground before the invasion. They left.
     
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    We will just have to disagree. IMO, they are a nation of paranoid schizophrenics. Seeing threats behind every bush. For some reason they are afraid of western Europe who is afraid of them. And now they are buddies with China because “my enemies enemy is my friend”.
    They are a hopeless case.
     
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    I still think he is bluffing, though I'm not as certain as I'd like to be. It all rests on Putin's grasp of reality.

    I am firmly of the opinion that NATO will respond with force to any use of nukes. Not necessarily every NATO nation, but the US, UK, Poland & probably France and a few others at a minimum. If Putin has convinced himself that won't happen he is delusional (as is anyone who agrees with him). Poland & the UK are itching to do something more practical and the US knows that China is watching.

    As I said, inside a week they would dismantle Russia's military forces in Ukraine.

    The other issue here is the wider response. Using a nuke, even a small tactical one, is a MASSIVE crossing of lines. Russia needs outside help. Thus far it its big 'friends', China & India, have given very little of that and have indicated that they are not happy with this war. If Russia starts using nukes even that limited support will stop.

    The nature of these potential consequences means this course of action carries the possibility that people within the Russian state or military decide Putin has gone too far. Not the most likely outcome, but far from impossible.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, then who's manning the new armaments. I read it takes years to learn.

    Well it is a lot easier to simply call others names and being adamant about it then giving it further thought.
     
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    It doesn't take years to learn to operate a howitzer, drone, MANPADS or HIMARS.

    This is why you should stop reading garbage and try some real news and information. You would find it refreshing.
     
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    I think if the protests keep up, the conscripts rebel and Russia's economic situation continues to deteriorate, eventually saner heads in Russia will force an end to this madness. If it's ultimately a choice between their beloved country and a power-mad old man, they will eventually choose the former.
     
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    I really hope so.
     
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    You need to stop judging other peoples by the low standards of your native Russians Jenny. Just because it takes years to train one of your peasants to use anything more complex than an AK doesn't mean that an intelligent & highly motivated person can't learn a LOT more quickly. Ukranians are quick learners, as they have shown repeatedly during this war.

    Sadly the peasants seem to take to rape, tirture & murder naturally....unless Putin trains them to do that too. maybe that is why it takes them years to learn to use equipment. :eek:
     
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    Grow up Durandal and stop the lies and games. Maybe a bit of reality might wake you up. Here's Scot Ritter a former marine and UN weapon inspector telling the American people what is really going on - and its not the fairy tales spit out by you and the MSM.

     
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    From him you heard this "analysis"? :D

    So how does it really going on with plan to surround Ukrainian forces? :D
     
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    Apparently he is also great if you want to get phone numbers for underage girls. I'm not sure why our Putinistas are so keen on using a convicted paedophile as a source, but they have done so repeatedly.
     
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    Who else will sell their faces to RT? Of course, only mortally rotten persons. You know who was selected from Russia as head of so called Doneck Peoples Republic? Formal poncy scheme agent Denis Pusilin. Yesterday he cheated pensioners and morons, today he is a head of "republic".
     
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    Makes sense.
     
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    .love that idea. L
    Ukrainians. Ukrainians learn quickly and are very good with technology. American military trainers have said that they underestimated how quickly Ukrainians learned to use the modern weapons.
     
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    What is your job as a troll?
     
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    Are you Russian?
     
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    If our Putinistas had the understanding of history they claim they would remember how being invaded by a large dictatorship bent on taking your territory & destroying your nation can focus the mind. There are numerous examples of this. Ukranians are highly motivated, which is a key ingredient for rapid training.
     
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    You make an especially valid point in suggesting that everything regarding future conduct of this war depends on "Putin's grasp of reality." All my reading about Putin reveals a man who is deeply immersed in the concept of "Holy Mother Russia" and both its defense and preservation above all else. Many have disparaged him as being merely the most successful and powerful oligarch among a whole pack of Russian oligarchs, but while he has achieved supremacy among them, I feel that there is something much more potentially troubling, and dangerous, about him than that -- it's something akin to religious devotion with a fervor and zeal that has been quietly suppressed in him for decades, but now is in full 'blossom'!

    His "Achilles Heel", however, may be that his deeply-felt love for the "Rodina" is not shared by many other Russians -- especially the younger ones who just don't care that much about Russia's history, its defeats, its victories, or anything else. Like many equivalent youthful 'internationalists', young Russians are much less interested in tearful displays of devotion at war memorials than they are in doing things they think are 'cool', watching videos on the internet, etc.

    The danger comes when a man who has what could be Putin's emotional makeup realizes that in spite of his enormous wealth, his great emphasis on "making Russia great again", and his bitter anger at what he feels is a deliberate, concerted effort by the U. S. and our allies to literally DESTROY Russia, he's backed into a corner where not even many of his fellow Russians fully support him anymore. Then it becomes a kind of "Hitler-in-the-bunker" syndrome. If Hitler had had the atomic bomb in 1945, he'd have lost the war anyway, but -- would he have used his new nuclear weapon anyway? I don't think there's any doubt about it....






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    They're trouble makers and fifth columnists because they want a return to the kleptocracy under America's man Yeltsin so they can fill their pockets and please their American handlers. It was a time when Russia's wealth was stolen and sent to off shore accounts while the Russian people suffered.

    Don't you find it strange how easily these Russians could leave for another country without visas and without an income? Seems to me they have dual citizenships and some tax evading off shore account.

    There's a reason why the Russian people love Vladimir Putin, and why Washington hates him.
     
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    Russia’s wealth was stolen by Oligarchs who Putin supports and protects as long as they keep cutting him in on the steal. Oligarchs also drained Ukraine of wealth and I am sure Belarus and most all former Soviet republics. Did you know that the initial batch of oligarchs were former KGB officials just like Putin. Those guys were given entire industries by former Soviet officials who took charge of the independent republics post the USSR. That was not the CIA doing that. The continuation of the myth of the CIA being the boogie man is just an old Kremlin lie.
    Back to Russians leaving sans visas. Easy answer and truth is that many countries do not require visas for Russian travelers. Smart Russians have been storing their money outside of Russia. That is of course true for oligarchs be they Russian, Ukrainian, Belarus , Khazak, Armenian etc.
    “Smart” Americans keep their money in the Bahamas in attempts to evade taxes. None of that is a CIA operation.
    Back to Russians leaving. There is no way the CIA could coordinate thousands of Russians escaping the draft. That is just a silly myth.
     
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    I disagree with you in a few things. First of all Washington has been searching for Putin's wealth ever since he became president and the oligarchs who refused to pay taxes left. If they can't find his wealth, it's because it doesn't exist, since it would go against his very nature and everything he ever said and believes. More than likely its projection by those who can't think of anything outside of personal gain and wealth. I do know that one of his daughters is married to an oligarch and is a trustee of a university, and if Putin has remarried, then maybe he does have some investments. But that would be speculation.

    As for believing the West wants to break up Russia and steal its wealth, well isn't that what Washington has been saying and doing ever since the breakup of the Soviet Union? Putin would be a very stupid man if he didn't believe otherwise and take precautions for the country he loves. As for Western cultural impositions, well Russia and Eastern Europe have suffered them since the split in the Churches, and that goes back centuries. Many a war has been fought because of it. They did call it at one time; 'the Orthodox/Catholic Divide'.

    As for this war, it has nothing to do with Ukraine, they are simply being used as cannon fodder to break up and destroy the Russian Federation. This is why Zalensky has such an indifference to the lives of his own men and would never give them orders to retreat no matter how precarious the situation and how many would die because of it.

    What Vladimir Putin is really fighting is the World Economic Forums Great Reset,- which is nothing more than a prelude to a one world government under corporate control. All the mega corporations that have been buying up small industries nonstop, are owned by Blackrock which means whoever owns Blackrock will own you as more and more nations and people are put into debt. Thus the Forum's motto: "You will own nothing but be happy."

    Personally, I see any form of 'control' as an imprisonment of mankind quite similar to the Soviet Union. I always felt that Russia had a mandate from God to hold back the one world government, and felt for them because of it. It was not a destiny that they had chosen. This might be why everything that's being thrown on Russia tends to backfire, whether it's towards their economy or military.

    Anyway this is my personal opinion. I tend to see things through a spiritual aspect as well as a political and economic one.
     
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