By that logic, no guns are 'banned' there, as Im sure theres a permit available for any of them under the 'proper' circumstances. Certain security and R&D firms contracted by the government will be able to get permits for machine guns and rocket launchers, as extreme examples. But correct me if I'm wrong, all firearms require some sort of permit to legally own where you are; written permission from the authorities, demonstrating their recognition of the 'legitimacy' of their claim to 'need' a firearm. If that same dynamic were applied to abortion, for example, where it was unavailable to those who did not first obtain written permission from the authorities, demonstrating a recognition of the 'legitimacy' of their claim that they 'need' it, would you not consider abortion to be effectively 'banned'? Or would you agree that machine guns and rocket launchers are not technically 'banned' either, along with the handguns you claim 'are not banned'?
Civilized yea right. 09/08 UK: Police raids find huge arms cache of jihad terror group, including sniper rifles. 09/07 UK: Two Muslim migrants arrested over plot to murder female relative who renounced Islam. 09/08 UK: Mosque officials allowed jihad recruiter to indoctrinate students for three years, obstructed investigation https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42749089 Ten charts on the rise of knife crime in England and Wales There were 43,516 knife crime offences in the 12 months ending March 2019. This is an 80% increase from the low-point in the year ending March 2014, when there were 23,945 offences, and is the highest number since comparable data was compiled. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ergency-record-stabbing-homicides/3470942002/ Britain's 'pervasive horror of knife crime' reaches record for number of stabbing homicides
So your country doesn't have a knife violence problem or Muslins storing illegal firearms in a Mosque or plowing into crowds?
No? No paranoia about traveling among the Irish in Northern Ireland? Uh huh. Curious, can you name 5 things you think Americans do well in comparison to the U.K?
All countries have knife crime. I believe 70% of knife crime is between immigrants from Europe due to free movement of EU citizens. So when you read figures, often pushed by the media to feed the fetish of the gullibles, deduct at least 70% off the figures. And then you have knife violence between gang members. What this means is, Joe public sees little to no crime but gullibles see a wealth of knife crime in the press. I'm 52 and have never seen a knife or gun in the street.
I've never been to Northern Ireland. Many friends go to the likes of Belfast and love it. I could fly from Glasgow, Newcastle, Carlisle or Manchester to Belfast, I think for about £60. It's on my to-do list. Paranoid in being there? Not in the slightest. Americans do well in what compared to the UK?
Sure, there are visitors to Belfast from the Isle, but few spend any time in the Irish neighborhoods except broad daylight tours from the safety of the taxi tours, and then, when visiting other areas tend to stay in areas well marked for their safety.
You need to do as I have done recently and ride shotgun with the Fort Lauderdale Police Department on Bravo shift, you will see things that will change even the most native minds about the prevalence of street violence, if they just don't go home crying. Sadly too many people live in a sterile bubble, where it is all flowers and butterflies and they have no clue of how those over in the Green Monsters live and what they need to defend themselves from, or what the streets are really like in way too many urban areas. The reality is, not everybody gets to live in the good part of town like you and I do, that stated, I refuse to isolate myself from reality and like an addict keep on going back to the real streets to help as much as I can, even if that means putting myself at risk.
A little while back an American new crew decided to tour off the beaten path during the day over there and had to be escorted out of the area before they where robbed or worse. It's why over here tour buss's don't go through Overtown.
Neighborhoods in Belfast with a few exceptions like the City center or down Lisburn to the Queens are like small countries in themselves. They are pretty well marked, by the types of murals, the flags on utility poles, the red, white and blue vs the green, gold and orange. Likely safer for a naive American in most places, but the Irish and Brits need to be wary of being in the wrong area, particularly after dark, not so much from the older adults, but of the young that hunt in packs.
Then the united states is not a civilized society, and it should cease being compared to one. The types of firearms legal to own in the united kingdom, are those built and designed around antiquated, outdated, obsolete technology. For all intents and purposes, modern firearms simply do not exist.
What is being described on the part of yourself, for all intents and purposes, is the exact same thing in the united states with regard to firearms. Excluding the subject of suicides for not being relevant, the majority of all firearm-related crimes are committed by the criminal element, including illegal aliens who have no legal right to be in the united states but who are present regardless. The majority of this violence is concentrated into specific urban areas that play host to large groups of minorities and illegal aliens who are shielded from immigration and customs enforcement who would otherwise arrest and deport them back to their known country of origin. The simple fact is that, once one looks past the surface of raw numbers and instead looks at locations, the majority of the united states simply does not possess a significant problem with firearm-related violence that needs to be addressed.
Personally, I am mostly a bow hunter, but I have a bolt action I hunt with and a revolver for personal protection. I do take comfort in the fact I have friends that have semi- autos and even full autos and thousands of rounds of ammo. That is what the second amendment is about. It is a last level deterrent that keeps an "elitist government gone wild" in check. I don't ever want to be like Europe, and I know that on a deeper level, those countries are glad they have the power of the United States to keep them free. They could never do it themselves.
Tell me what semi automatic centerfire pistols you're able to own as a matter of right. You may use the UK definition of pistol rather than the US. Go on then. Tell the class guvna
I wonder why they restrict the stat to only england and wales? What about Northern Ireland and Scotland?
You realize 80% of gun violence in the US is gang violence and criminal on criminal right? And that outside large metro areas there are jurisdictions which haven't had a homicide (justified or not) in years? Of course you do. Sure. You're not feeding the "fetish of the gullibles" (sic) are ya?
It that where true why are the gun banners going after guns not the actual problem? If cars don't cause DUI deaths, why is it guns cause shooting deaths? The true answer is, the gun banners want to take guns for if they did not they would go after what actually causes the problem the persons who pull the trigger.
Dude multiple dem politicians have openly come out saying they want essentially all semi autos. Come off it
