Racism? It's Not How Good; It's Skin Color

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  1. Raffishragabash

    Raffishragabash Banned

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    If you love White Privilege and stealthily try to preserve it, then you will ignore, that our own SCOTUS ruled that Black ghetto schools are "...inherently unequal..." to the hi-quality schools which our children enjoy out in lilli-White suburbia.

    I think Blacks should no longer have to pay, taxes, since we have shown for decades now that our White racist GOVT will never improve upon America's ghetto schools.
     
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    1) you have to be kidding me. if people elect to remain 'hopeless' (after 200 years, which is like .... pathetic beyond measure), there is nothing anyone else can do about it. it's a choice. I personally know people who watched their family members slaughtered in a brutal war, while literally starving - who then risked their lives on leaky boats escaping to the West, arriving with no money, no English, no education, nothing. Within a single generation their kids were graduating as doctors and lawyers. they let NOTHING stop them. no amount of 'hopelessness', racism, lack of education, nothing.

    2) so NOW you've shifted the goal posts back to a very specific time period in order to make it work? this just keeps getting funnier. and funnier still, you don't even realise you backed up what we're saying by mentioning EDUCATIONAL ASPIRATIONS.

    3) hahaha ... cheekbones now, is it? you're a riot :D
     
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    there is a free public high school in New York for kids with promise. it's academically selective, so NO racism is involved at all. doesn't matter what colour your kid is, or how poor, if they're capable, they'll get in. 40% of the kids in that school are from poor families. that's basically half.
    and I guarantee that that school has better academic results than the most lilly white surburban school. we have many such schools in my country (as you know), and ALL of them have more non white kids than white kids, and ALL of them do better than even the most expensive private schools.

    no one is buying what you're selling, Raff.
     
  4. Raffishragabash

    Raffishragabash Banned

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    ROFL @ you pretending that those Blacks chose to/elected to, be ostracized and alienated, as citizens of this racist society.



    What?
     
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    Do you know any Nigerians or Very Dark Indians living in America? If you do, ask them if they sit at home feeling hopeless because of Evil Whitey.
     
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    Majority white countries are the least racist societies in the world.
     
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    A pastor in Canada risks jail time for preaching about sin. = Not free

    Parents in England can't get their child out of an English hospital to take him somewhere he can get care = Not free.

    Want me to go on?
     
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    This really reinforces Robert E Allen's statement that "I guess, to some extent, i guess it depends on how you define free." Because whoever made this map surely has a different idea of freedom than a lot of people have. They listed India, a society with a caste system, as free. And I'm pretty sure that of all the green nations here, the US is the only one with freedom of speech and the right to bear arms. And if you have neither of those rights, you are not free.
     
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    When it comes to distribution of wealth/equal access to prosperity/equal protection of the laws, then majority white countries are the most racist societies in the world. And it's not even close.
     
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    Absolute bullshit.
     
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    Most racist.JPG Least racist.JPG
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...untries/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e0ce82ce5d07
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ds-racist-countries-answers-surprise-you.html
     
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    Is this the one, in Harlem? Promise Academy?
    “Admission is determined by a lottery, which gives preference to Zone residents to ensure that we are supporting children and families with the deepest needs”
     
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    Actually, as of late, it’s the blacks that want to make everything about race.
     
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    No, this is stupid!
    I hired a lot of people over the time and can assure you - when I’m looking for people I look for specific education. I’m not hiring someone to do accounting with a degree in history or black studies or whatever. Your degree ain’t worth crap if it’s not in a field where demand exists. You getting a BS degree in a field like communications, English, black studies, philosophy, etc, means you are a slacker who does minimal work and hopes to achieve high results. Instead of working hard or working smart you work on hope - do minimum and hope to get away with it.
     
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    Do you have any idea where funds are coming from for local schools?
     
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    As SallyAlly probably knows, in the Anglo-sphere outside of North America, 'Asian' means anyone from Asia -- in fact, it usually means someone from, or whose ancestors were from, the Indian sub-continent, not someone from China. It's a source of confusion when Americans discuss race issues with Brits (and, presumably, Aussies), since Americans tend to use the word to mean Chinese.

    The Arabs, Persians, Hindus, Chinese all had world-class civilizations at one point. Then their liberals took over, and they slid into backwardness. (Just kidding!)

    In any case, people from these cultures with enough ambition to immigrate are likely to be a selection of their best, and their destination nations are lucky to have them.
     
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    In Oz, Asians are From Asia, but doesn’t include Indians, Sri Lankan’s or Pakistanis as Asian does in England.

    I was interested to know whether half of the select school members Crank talked about, were in Australia or the US.
     
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    Yes, this is true. If you're lucky enough to have two ambitious, intelligent, educated parents, they can give you the education that may be lacking in school. They'll pass on their own culture -- above all, how to behave with other people and how to exercise self-discipline and work hard -- to you. Of course, such parents will also do their best to get their children into decent schools.

    Now consider the situation of a young Black person being raised by a semi-literate single mother, in a public housing estate, with a series of violent boyfriends. Such a child will enter school with a small vocabulary, compared to his counterpart in a small town in Iowa. He will have a "cultural deficit". If he tries to excel academically, his peers will put pressure on him not to -- it's called "acting white". (By the way, it's not parents who influence children, nor is it schools -- it's their peers. Google the late Judith Rich Harris, who, to the consternation of academics, showed that this was the case. Her book, The Nurture Assumption, will be an eye-opener for anyone interested in the problem of education.)

    All of this has been studied extensively. (I won't go into detail, but here, as elsewhere, the Hard Left -- increasingly influential in our teacher training colleges -- has played a really terrible, destructive role.)

    So anyone condemned to a typical public school in an American inner city is doomed.

    Is there anything that can be done about it? Yes, there is. The evidence is not yet in, but some heroic attempts are being made to provide a better environment for such children. Google 'Michaela School' for a British example, and for a more extensive attempt to alter the total environment, look at the 'Harlem Children's Zone'. To see what can be done, look here.

    Basically, all of these projects are aimed at rescuing that minority of ghetto children who have a parent who wants them to succeed. It's a kind of social triage, but it's the best we can do right now. If you have a mother who's a crack addict, who neglects you, who brings in a series of violent thugs to her apartment ... you're doomed. Nothing that a liberal society like the US can do will help you. But there is a minority who don't want this, and they can be saved.

    This is not really a liberal vs conservative thing, although the Hard Left tend to be very dismissive, indeed hostile, towards these efforts. In fact, it's one area where liberals and conservatives have worked together.

    Anyone, Left or Right, who's interested in the problems of education should have a look at the journal Education Next.

    Everything underlined in red is clickable.
     
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    He'd probably read Cloud Street. The life of a bounty-hunter as described in that novel sounded very attactive to me. Except for the snakes and spiders you have down there.
     
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    He was six and no doubt thought that trapping wild dogs sounded exciting.
     
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    Thanks for plagiarizing me, basically, about what I said 2days ago re America is designed so parents' income is directly proportional to their (teen) offsprings' educational preparation and success.

    This is a colossal lie, yes uber deceit.

    You like to forget, these kids' parents were also victims of White racism as they grew up in America. So they won't know how to lead kids to success, when they themselves were robbed of the opportunity to see success thanks to White-racism.

    ROFL @ how you just agreed with @crank who went days, in here, calling me incorrect and mocking my stances.

    Now here, you compliment crank ---but you are now here supporting my stances and echoing my scholarship--- altho crank will
    come pretend that you are not :) ...

    So, thank you.

    For basically agreeing that what our SCOTUS ruled was correct about "...inherently unequal..." as we White citizens look stupid and racist and greedy, since 1863. Every since that year, we racist Whites have blamed Black citizens for their own low (IQ and college-entrance) exam scores wherever we Whites herded them into ghettos and gifted them with schools within dilapidated bldgs of unsafe neighborhoods & ineffective teaching/learning utilities & outdated technology & unmotivated, barely-certified faculty members.
     
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    if your claim here made any logical sense, whatsoever, then Blacks would be in much better shape for decades now:


    Actually, as of 1619, it's us Whites who made sure that everything is always about Race. So, we can keep winning!
     
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    I think you may have me confused with someone else. I don't think I have ever argued with you (because I believe you're actually a right winger pretending to be a particularly over-the-top leftist noodlehead, in order to discredit the Left. . If so, you're putting it on too thick -- I'm pretty familiar with the far Left, and few of them are that far gone.)

    For anyone interested in this, 'Acting white' is a phenomenon well known to anyone with the least knowledge of ghetto life. A personal account: Years ago, very liberal friends of mine in Seattle adopted a little girl from India, who was quite dark, and who was accepted by the Blacks in her local school system as Black. But she was smart, her parents were educated professionals, so she was soon outdoing all the kids in the class, white or Black. And the Blacks started attacking her, for 'acting white'. As Judith Rich Harris showed, peer pressure is by far the most important influence on young people. So intelligent young Blacks, especially males, face a terrible pressure to conform to behavior that guarantees failure, especially in society as it is evolving.

    President Obama acknowledged this problem
    , and there is a (Black) social scientist at Harvard who has done some good research on it. (He has done a lot of research into education, and his papers are well worth reading. I don't think they would interest you, but others who would like to look at his papers can find them here.)

    Since a growing section of the white working class is now beginning to exhibit the irresponsible behavior of the Black underclass, perhaps more whites will take an interest in the necessity for a radical, massive, concentrated effort to improve America's education system for its bottom third.
     
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    Ah so. Another troll post from Raffish.

    The local governments running most inner city schools are for the most part black run governments. Is the bell curve the problem or is it the fact that black school boards, black administrators, black principles, and black teachers cannot provide a proper level of education.
     
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