Racists?

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Can Only American Republicans, their Politicians and their media, Be Racists?

  1. Yes.

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    4.3%
  2. No.

    15 vote(s)
    32.6%
  3. No. American Democrats, their Politicians, and their media can be also.

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    67.4%
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  1. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yabberefugee can read.
     
  2. Richard Franks

    Richard Franks Well-Known Member

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    So can everybody else.
     
  3. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not you. That's why he's running circles around you.
     
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    What people need to do is quit being triggered by this it's a scam.

    They say that you're racist so that you abandoned the topic and start defending yourself if you just scoff at it because you know how you feel about people of different races better than they do.

    I think there is a bit of gaslighting to it as well I know that word gets used a lot but I mean it in the strictest sense. They say things like internalized misogyny and unconscious bias to try and get you to second guess yourself. When you think about it do you really harbor any bias toward black people or Asian people or Hispanic people or gay people?

    If no then it's over and anytime they say that about you it's just an excuse not to address the topic and treat it exactly like that.

    I think really what we need to do is stop giving such a s*** when people call us names. I've been called a Nazi, I've been called homophobic. I'm told I'm transphobic because I don't want to get with a dude that has a vagina. And if you won't get with a woman that has a penis it's because you're transphobic if you just don't give a **** about these names they call you you've pulled the fangs out of the serpent.

    When someone says that you're racist understand that means I disagree with you but I can't argue so I'm just going to attack you personally.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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  6. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you.
     
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    IOW, you did not actually "read Angela Davis’ paper".

    Try again:

    "Revelations of sterilization abuse during that time expose the complicity of the ***federal government***. At first the Department of Health, Education and Welfare, claimed that approximately 16,000 women and 8000 men had been sterilized in 1972 under the auspices of federal programs. Later however these figures underwent a drastic revision. Carl Schultz, Director of HEW's population affairs office, estimated that between 100,000 and 200,000 sterilization had actually been funded that year by the federal government. During Hitler's Germany, incidentally, 250,000 sterilizations were carried out under the Nazi Hereditary Health Law. Is it possible that the record of the Nazis, throughout the years of their reign, may have been almost equaled by US government funded sterilizations in the space a single year?"
    WOMEN RACE AND CLASS, Angela Y. Davis, Random House, NY, 1980. p. 218. (*** mine)

    Focus on ***federal government***. In fact, forced sterilization and covering up ethnic cleanisng and genocide has always been a priority for what often still passes as "progressive" thinking.
     
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    Yabberefugee isn't making points here and neither are you. You're missing the point and I'm a better reader that both of you and that's a fact. You haven't got anything to back up what you say or do. I have an idea, Go back to Never Never Land where you belong.
     
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  10. Thingamabob

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    That's not true.
    I don't need anything as backup. Yabberefugee has already spelled it all out with proof and evidence. You are only pretending not to have seen it
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    And the zero substantive rebuttals continue.......
    Did you not read what I wrote? I did not say the federal government was not complicit. I did say groups like the ACLU and Southern Poverty Law Center fought to stop this. I asked for your point and apparently you do not have one....typical.
    By the way only a deeply disturbed individual would believe "ethnic cleanisng and genocide has always been a priority for what often still passes as "progressive" thinking."
     
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  12. Ddyad

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    My point was that the federal government was complicit. I am glad you agree.

    So, is it your position that "progressives" stopped promoting and covering up forced sterilization and other forms of genocide and ethnic cleansing?
     
  13. Thingamabob

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    I imagine that the minds of those who consider "ethnic cleansing and genocide" practical solutions to specific problems would believe it is progressive thinking. Obviously, you'd have to cross a very thick line between eradicating mosquitos and eliminating humans but once they've done that it all seems like a logical solution to them.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    You are both sick individuals if you believe that "ethnic cleansing and genocide has always been a priority for what often still passes as "progressive" thinking." . No one, whether left, right or in between could believe that is a practical solution and be in their right mind. To believe that of another group is hatred that I can not imagine.
     
  15. Thingamabob

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    You read what I wrote (hell, you even quoted it!) but this (above :above:) is what you got out of it? The "sick individual" must be you. :cynic:
     
  16. Richard Franks

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    You are dead wrong, and you are not making sense and you can't prove that you make sense so there. I'm going to stop have to fight with you because it's a waste of time, and you are certainly a waste of time. You act like you're from neverneverland.
     
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    Well those of you invested in the industry of" race baiting' always like to claim the majority (specifically whitey) are always trying to hold you back. When you view the factual statistics that the Trump Administration led the way in allowing you to help yourselves to prosper you see the fallacy of that argument. On the other hand the government plantation mentality enticed you to vote for them and as Joe Biden said "if you don't vote for me you ain't black". Sorry you fell for it and until things get straightened out again....welfare will be your best hope!
     
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    You make no sense.
     
  19. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only to those that are sensible.
     
  20. Richard Franks

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    You don't make sense. Sorry I have to tell this to you.
     
  21. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have a distinct impression that this Richard Franks fellow is very young. Maybe 14 or 16. He has no experience in life yet.
     
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    Okay maybe I was a little harsh with you (not Ddyad) it was just ignorant. States like North Carolina which force sterilized Blacks increased the sterilizations as desegregation grew due to a white supremacist backlash and groups like the ACLU fought against such policies. Who were the "progressives"?
     
  23. Thingamabob

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    Thank you.
    I don't know why you think I know too little but I can tell you that I am 75 and I have been to nearly 100 countries around the world, I am a war veteran (soldier) of one war and a veteran (civilian) of 4 other wars in Asia, the Middle East, and Africa. I know from personal observation that humans are capable of thinking genocide is a "good thing" (and progressive) given a certain amount of incentive, based on race, religion, culture, geography, and political background ..... and it doesn't matter if you are white, black, brown, red, or yellow. Do you want me to give you examples of each or can you figure that out for yourself?
     
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    Thank you for dodging my question and noting how worldly you are, but under discussion was Ddyad's assertions that forced sterilizations of Blacks was part of a progressive conspiracy of some sort and you were sympathetic to that.
     
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    How a conversation with these types usually goes ...

    NP (Normal Person): Nice weather we're having, eh?

    SS (Sensitive Snowfalke): WHY DID YOU CALL ME A RACIST!

    NP: What?

    SS: SEE! YOU DID IT AGAIN!

    NP: You're acting crazy.

    SS: MOMMY, STOP HIM FROM CALLING ME RACIST!

    NP:<Walks away, twirls finger around ear.>
     

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