Raising the minimum wage is good for the economy.

Actually, no I don't. Are you saying that they must pay them at least $1.5/hour or no more than $1.50/hour?

 

No matter what the pay the lower skilled worker loses, always.
What you suggest is that a lower skilled person could get a job at a low pay but for that to be true the higher skilled worker expecting more is left unemployed.

 

Without a legally imposed price floor, the low skilled worker could compete based on price. The minimum wage law prevents him from doing so.

 

The minimum wage is a bad idea? Look here.

 

Blind dumb , the 10 point list says one thing , that you would have to go somewhere else to find Marxist, communist or socialist then in this country, because they don't exist in any form. Only if the stupid people get to define what they mean.

 

GO right ahead, copy and paste, show us one thing that is dominant in this country on the 10 point list that all countries in this world don't do. again only if the stupidest of the blind can make their own definition. You are the biggest bull ******* here.

 

I just realized that you tried to attempt to prove that we are Marxist with you proof listing after each one on my 10 point list. Two things cut and past, if every country in the world does the same thing or if you listing a single twisted example, is not proving anything. You can't make your own definition blind man. IF with your one example you prove that this country or anything is Marxist then the whole world is Marxist. Cut and paste your a fraud.

 

How stupid can anyone be, paying someone more as a wage is bad for them. Now that defines stupidity.

 

I didn't say "dominant". STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH!

You continue to use the argumentative fallacy of Shifting Burden of Proof: "A classic fallacy of logos that challenges an opponent to disprove a claim rather than asking the person making the claim to defend his/her own argument."

As I keep telling you Marxism is an entire continuum from government control of business and capital to collective control of business and capital.

continuum: a coherent whole characterized as a collection, sequence, or progression of values or elements varying by minute degrees

And there is simply no doubt by any objective observer that the Marxist Democrats celebrate and push the three basic tenets of Marxism, 1. class warfare, 2. redistribution of wealth, and 3. central planning of the economy. Where they have pushed this nation so far *does* exist on the continuum of Marxism.

 

You haven't offered one single solitary thing of import to refute anything I've said. You keep putting words in mouth and using the argumentative fallacy of Shifting Burden of Proof.

Much of the Western world today *is* Marxist. Welfare states which dominate Western Europe are Marxist. They redistribute wealth. Part and parcel of Marxism. They centrally plan their economies, certainly far more than in America so far. Again, part and parcel of Marxism.

There *is* a reason why China and Russia abandoned much of their Marxism for capitalism. There is no reason why we are moving to where China and Russia abandoned other than the jealousy, greed, and envy of the Marxist Democrats.

 

There is not some unlimited pot of money to pay workers. Workers often are laid off when the company no longer can afford workers.

 

Workers are never nor have they ever been fired because of minimum wage increases.
The easy way for you to find out the truth is ask any employer how many workers are standing around idle because they're just so cheap.
All businesses hire as many people as they need to get the job done. No more no less.

 

I am sorry to report that indeed workers get laid off due to wage hikes forced upon the company. Worse yet, companies are forced to close for the same reason.

 

You wouldn't need to apologize if you didn't report alternative facts. Its a myth.

 

Who is hating? Seems as if you are. Working wages are stagnant which is why an outsider was elected President. Won't do much good as he's only one guy and those in power don't care about anything but staying in power. Both parties. It's broken.

Not sure how you can go back to 1799 and quote anything to do with this day but some principles stand the test of time. Generally leave the system alone and it will fix itself. The major problems are we have too many people unprepared to work for more than the minimum. We failed to train them with a broken education system. We don't have enough trained blue collar workers. Unions priced themselves out of a job. On and on we have done things that are self defeating. We have designed a system to keep them in poverty and it is primarily one party pushing that. Right now one party is working and the other is resisting. And neither is very good at it although it's easier to do nothing than something. It's a party of hate and people have had enough of it or haven't you noticed the last few elections.

There are too many people at the top but that's the way it's always been. That doesn't preclude people making it in a vast middle ground that includes way above poverty all the way to the top.

Instead of worrying about those at the top....what are you going to do take their money....worry about those at the bottom and the middle. Vote people into office who want to serve and not stay and get rich. Vote for people who are American first and party a distant second. Work to fix things and stop hating.

 

The only quote I put in your mouth is, your right jbander and everyone here, I am dumb. Here's stupidity at its highest. I posted this "GO right ahead, copy and paste, show us one thing that is dominant in this country" and you posted this" "I didn't say "dominant". STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH!" Explain how my remark said anything about you saying anything. copy and paste, your coming unhinged.

 

OMG, there is nothing alternative at all. Remember how the ACA forced companies to shorten workers weeks? Believe me, wages matter. Companies report they shut down due to higher minimum wages.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...udy-on-seattles-15-minimum-wage/#427a81b1156a

The Democrats totally ignore boundaries. For instance, you own a business close to the border of Seattle. So shops outside of Seattle can sell cheaper if they wish. You pay too much wages so they beat your prices. Minimum wages get increased locally. But if you expand the area, shoppers quit buying. Work weeks get shorter. All in all, a bad deal for workers.

 

Cut and paste wants everyone to think that Marx had nothing to do with Communism and socialism, even though he wrote , with Engles the Communist manifesto. Like I said before his 3 main tenets of Marxism. are picked from a long group of tenets to say they are the three top tenets . What did Marx and Engles write in the communist manifesto as the main tennest of Communism ----
1. Abolition of property and land and application of all rents of land to public purposes
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax
3. Abolition of all right to inheritance
4. Confiscation of all property of all emigrants and rebels
5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6.Centraliztion of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing of cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of label. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country,
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination with education and industrial production.------------------------------------- Copy and paste wants you to believe this is American , What a pile of bullshit.

 

Congressman Jason Chaffetz of Utah quit at the end of June because he got sick of trying to help the public, but being constantly belittled by Democrats and turned down. He still has on the table a bill to solve problems. But says no chance it will ever become law.
http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/0...n-so-cynical-about-this-hes-leaving-congress/

 

Short but powerful. Workers lament higher wages.

 

Do you really think that means something. There is a pile of money as high as a mountain in the richest country in the world. The only problem is that it is funneled to the top by hate party Tax law and hate party law. Try this in for size , Over the last 35 years , business has been booming , making the highest profits in history a and the largest percentage of gross that is profit in our history. The top few got every single increased profit in those 35 years. The middle class got worse then nothing, no increase in wages but a massive increase in their debt. Which I may add also goes to the top few. The pile of money is higher here ,then any pile in the world.

 

Well that makes you wrong, Highest profits in history and the highest increase of profit in history and the highest percentage of gross that is profit in history. Ya they are closing their doors all around this country, what a goof ball.

 

Bullshit, the only problem is raising the minimum wage is doing it in isolated area when their suburbs can have a advantage with their lower wage. A national increase in the minimum wage. leaves that problem behind. The only thing that can increase unemployment is the lack of demand and with the increased demand created by higher wages the results are minor either way. The Seattle study is bullshit until they find out if both the increase minimum wage area has different results with immediate areas, (Suburbs) that don't have a increase. I bet there is only the slightest bit of different. Putting the study that the haters want to hang their hat on, in the garbage where I think it belongs.

 

When a price floor is set above the equilibrium price, this creates a surplus. A surplus of labor is also known as unemployment.

 

Minimum wage = companies outsourcing.
Call centres in India etc.

If you set a minimum wage in your country, other countries may not.

Job market is competitive. Don't price yourself out of it.