Rational argument in support of suspending the ownership of firearms by suicidal individuals

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Xenamnes, Oct 18, 2018.

  1. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

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    And I expect you to push your pro gun agenda in the same way
     
  2. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An accurate expectation since that is exactly what I do along with all of our other Constitutional rights.
     
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  3. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

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    Pro gun is not pro constitution. Gun control is constitutional. Pro gun is simply guns above all else
     
  4. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How "modern liberal" it is for you to dictate to others what they mean and what they support.
     
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    Right back at you with your claim I have an anti gun agenda which is patently false
     
  6. Max Rockatansky

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    Dude, you've proved you do....several times.

    Let's clear this up:

    Do you favorite limiting the size of magazines?

    Do you favorite banning any currently legal types of weapons?

    Yes or no answers are fine. Expound if you like, but please post a definitive yes or no to each question.
     
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    No and no. Both are stupid limits.

    Is that clear enough?
     
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    You have any idea of the corner you just put yourself into?
     
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    Sadly for some...it won’t be clear enough...hahaha
     
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    Great! Do what's your problem with my views?
     
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    I am crystal clear on what my views are. This is not my first rodeo
     
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    Do you believe in gun control?
     
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    Yes, they are clearly those of a gun banner.
     
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    Case in point...as if on cue...:)
     
  15. Xenamnes

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    If everyone currently involved could cease and desist discussing the current topic, and get back to the original topic of discussion.

    If there is a rational, logic-based reason for temporarily suspending firearms ownership by those who are contemplating the decision to end their own existence, ultimately what is the reason? Why does society see fit to exercise authority and ownership over the life of the individual?
     
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    Maybe the same reason there are people who want to be able to exercise authority and ownership over a woman’s right to a decision about her own body.
     
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    in 15 years in mental health , I never lost a patient on my watch ( many tried) although some died while on pass or after discharge ..then again they were in a very controlled environment ...they were a creative bunch , guns, hanging, jumping,self immolation , ODs,throat and wrist slashing as well as driving a car off a cliff or into SF bay
     
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    I'm against "gun control". I'm against all laws except the law of do no harm to others.
     
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    I would say to those limitations and bans that if the public wanted to try it it would be fine with me. Does that make me anti-gun? Of course not. Was someone who wanted to make better seatbelts than the single lap belt anti-car? No. They just wanted to try something new. Do I think limiting the size of magazines would help curtail, or reduce the slaughter during a mass shooting? Probably not. But I have nothing against a concerned and frustrated public trying different approaches. There are enough 20 and 30 round mags around that would be grandfathered in.
     
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    The "public" also wanted Jim Crow laws which doesn't make it right. We have a Constitution to prevent local and Federal authorities from denying Americans their unalienable rights. The Constitution doesn't give us our rights, it limits the Federal government on what powers they have.
     
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    Then move to Somalia
     
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    You can almost post for them the script is co clear. Lol
     
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    My god that was hilarious
     
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    Yeah, the public trying to improve the lives of their fellow countrymen is the equivalent of the Jim Crow laws.
     
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    You don't believe in the constitution. In fact you only believe in one law.....remember?
     

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