Regarding the recent gun bill defeat.

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  1. therooster

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    Lucky you didn't write the constitution! So why does what YOU SAY matter to anyone?
     
  2. Derideo_Te

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    NRA revised history?
     
  3. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Guns didn't free the slaves.

    Liberals with guns freed the slaves.
     
  4. Derideo_Te

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    Which is why this is about BACKGROUND CHECKS as opposed to bans.
     
  5. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for admitting that it has never happened under the government of We the People and it won't either for one very obvious reason that the gun obsessed seem to have a problem grasping.

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    Probably so that they can either sell them on the black market or to the gun obsessed.

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    The NRA are holding We the People hostage so does that count?
     
  6. maat

    maat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is the nature of governments to become tyrannical. Our founders established a good answer to this. Does not matter who else has grid and failed.
     
  7. AlNewman

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    So you have no clue! Guess was sticks and stones fired at high velocity that wasn't a gun.

    Liberals have never freed anything except other people's money for their use. Liberals are the causation of slavery. Liberals and to a slightly lesser degree, conservatives, use guns to enforce slavery.
     
  8. maat

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    Not sure what you are saying here. As an AR owner, it is the weapon I would chose in a battle. Biden can go to battle with his DBS. Whether you think I would ever need it, l could care less.
     
  9. Soupnazi

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    In other words America won.

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    The NRA does no such thing they in fact represent the people and protect the rights of the people.
     
  10. Derideo_Te

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    The Founding Fathers established a new form of government that would prevent tyranny by placing the power in the hands of We the People.
     
  11. Derideo_Te

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    :roflol:

    Obviously the irony flew over at 30,000 feet!

    And yes, the onus is entirely on you substantiate this ludicrous allegation;

     
  12. AlNewman

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    Do you have any clue of what, much less who, "We the people" actually stands for? And I admitted nothing, it was your narrow little interpretation of matters to fit your narrow view of the world that came up with that conclusion.

    But not to worry, the next little mass extermination escapade could come to a location very near you. Wonder if the next one could break 50? Or perhaps 100? Or maybe it could top the 250 of an earlier age?
     
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    Assumes factoids not in evidence.

    Follow the NRA money trail if you want to know who they actually represent.
     
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    NRA money to?

    You mean citizens that pay monthly dues to be a part of it?
     
  15. Derideo_Te

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    So the Orlando terrorist was working for the US government now?

    :roflol:
     
  16. Soupnazi

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    Yes exactly and I stated fact while you stated fiction.

    The majority of NRA funds come from private donations.

    They represent their membership which reflects the general population.

    Your myth was MASSIVELY debunked years ago get in touch with reality and stop looking idiotic by your repetition of michael moore quotes
     
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    No, the lobbying funds provided to the NRA by the gun manufacturers.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-industry-funds-nra-2013-1

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    The money math doesn't lie!

    See post #68 for details on who is funding the NRA.
     
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    Does not guarantee against tyranny. An armed citizenry is better suited for dealing with the inevitable.
     
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    Uh, what?
     
  20. Derideo_Te

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    There is nothing "inevitable" about tyranny.
     
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    I disagree. Tyranny will occur as soon as we let our guards down. It's the inevitable result of giving the government too much power.
     
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    Tyranny is the ultimate goal of bureaucracy's growth. The Framers understood this so codified in the Constitution the remedy.
     
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    When you can have the IRS target a certain group and get away with it, tyranny's already here.
     
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    If that's the case then why do police have them and high capacity magazines? What if there were multiple attackers? Plus as a side not shooting someone is not like the movies. It's not one shot, one kill and you never miss. In a high stress situation you'll be shaking like a leaf and the assailant could be so hyped up that he won't even noticed that he's been shot. Oh and btw, I'm glad the bill didn't passed. yipee!!!
     
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