Religion is not a uniter, it is a divider.

Irrelevant. You addressed nothing here. I don't wear glasses anymore...didn't you see my thread. I got LASIK.

So you calling us names isn't degrading? You accusing us of "division" isn't degrading? Then what the (*)(*)(*)(*) is?!

 

I’ve always loved this one. Y'all want us to believe some fanciful imaginary creature, we call it what it is (an imaginary creature) and you scream its degrading.

Did you ever stop to think its degrading to someone to insist their imaginary creature is real w/o one shred of evidence.

You are actually proving my point. Religion divides, not unites. It divides because YOU and your brethren insist your imaginary creature is real.

 

Are you not degrading us? You questioned my assertion that you are degrading religion or rather religious belief (spirituality):

By the very definition you are as you are trying to reduce us by mockery and redicule. That is degradation and you just keep dodging the question.

I'm not the one dividing, you are. You are the one setting the lines and choosing sides. You accuse us, but lets look at you and all your posts to see your shining example as a "unifier". I'll be from my personal experience of you that 99.9% of your posts divide and segregate rather unite and bond.

 

You and your brethern are the ones saying a god exists. Not us. That mocks and degraded us by even bringing that nonsense to the table. This also divides us right off the bat. Until you understand this, there is nothing more to discuss.

 

Well rstones199. I see we are ready to take a trip down memory lane and revisit the Invisible Pink Panda. You remember, the one that sits on your couch and counsels you.. and oh yes... you can feel his cuddliness. Why don't you carry that as a signature line anymore?

Well hey, I am still accepting your imaginary creature as 'real' even though you never provided one shred of evidence of that Pandas existence. All I have is your word. Is it still sitting on your couch? Is it still holding conversations with you?

Example: http://www.politicalforum.com/1060855834-post49.html

Just as you insisted for the longest time, that the Invisible Pink Panda was/is real. You convinced me of the 'realness' of that Panda. Are you now saying that you were telling a lie about his presence on your couch?

 

not being the same divides us we could all be clones and secular and still not all get along if we think differently about things

 

Thank you for a non-sophistry response. It's nice to see we have posters who doesn't engage in that type on nonsense.

Thinking differently is a great thing. It is what adds to human knowledge. But just because each individual thinks differently, that doesn't mean, we as a race; we should be so divided.

 

No, having a belief does not naturally equal division. If you were to just talk about atheism I wouldn't call you a divider.

Like I said, you are the one setting the boundaries that are dividing. You are being very, overly aggressive.

 

A belief that we shouldn't spend money on welfare is not the same as a belief in imaginary creature. You clearly do not understand this.

 

This is where the wheels came off.

 

You just contradicted yourself. Not a post away you said this:

Let me paraphrase rstones: "Thinking is great--as long as you don't bring your different views to our table."

Talk about "sophistry."



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Seemingly you are proposing that everyone have a uniform way of thinking so as to disrupt any differences of opinion. Now what particular method of thinking would you recommend? Is that method of thinking going to be available to every man, woman, and child on the planet? What safe guards will be provided to insure such stability in method of thinking? What will happen to those people who refuse to accept a new and improved way of thinking? Who will be the dictator who specifies which manner of thinking would be the best and most appropriate for all of mankind? YOU?

 

It is what adds to human knowledge. <--- bringing imaginary creatures to the table does not add to human knowledge.

Come back when you have something Fish.

 

Gods have been a part of ALL human history. Apparently you lack "knowledge" concerning the relevance and the contributions of religious thought. Why am I not surprised.

 

The differences of opinions we should be having (and this is just an EXAMPLE), is whether or not to send human beings on a mission that is 22 light years away, not whether or not some imaginary creature exists.

I don’t expect you to understand this thou, as you have said in the past, you could never put your faith in mankind.

 

And there has never been ONE shred of evidence for any god man had drempt up.

Time for the human race to grow up. Time to unite, not divide.

 

You're the one being divisive here, if you'll note.




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Did you ever stop to think that if mankind dropped religion hundreds of years ago, we wouldnt be having this conversation?

 

Belief systems are a divider. How many threads have I seen....where athiest show extreme contempt and disrespect for my beliefs? So many.

I think what you are saying is......all the world should believe what I do and then since we share all the same values....we have peace.

Well....I could say the same right? But I believe in freedom of religion....and the freedom to not believe anything.

 

Humans should put HUMANS first and work together to create a better Human Race.

If we can get past religion, there is nothing the human race can not accomplish.

 

Are you gonna break into a Lennon song? LOL



Again--what sort of argumentation is this? Are you trying to make a legitimate point, or do you just want to rage nonsense?

 

Exactly.






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Why should I put my trust/confidence/faith in mankind? Mankind has proven its inability to live in peace and harmony.

http://www.google.com/search?pq=pub....,cf.osb&fp=1e6342743af0b899&biw=1024&bih=560

Take your pick. All politics... no religion involved... but science was certainly there.

 

Good point. Communist governments are not at peace, either.

 

You sir...or madam...can't get past someone else believing in something different then you.

Start at home first.